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What level of Rider Am I? Beginner, Novice, Intermediate, Advanced??

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    06-23-2009, 06:50 PM
  #21
Green Broke
I think the level of riding applies to being able to ride other horses rather than just one too. Each horse is different and brings a whole new game and being able to ride and handle different horses can speak to your experience.

Spyder had really great input, review and work on those things as they will help you become a better rider.
     
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    06-23-2009, 07:23 PM
  #22
Weanling
Ooh Spyder, very good analysis there!
I'd say it's very hard to judge without pictures or video, but I am highly interested in seeing some. =)
     
    06-23-2009, 09:00 PM
  #23
Yearling
Thanks for replying with all this info and taking your time... but alot of your analysis is incorrect... I will write mine in blue..
Walk:
- side pass--- bending to inside, legs on, I am working on keeping her straight,, she likes to swerve off
If he/she is swerving off HOW can you claim you are able to bend her like you have done below.
So sorry, I totally mixed side pass up with leg yeild... I forgot what it was called...
- collected--- I can do this easily the right way :P
NO ONE should be working on collection at the walk unless they have everything and I mean everything in place, not just almost there. An good rider/trainer KNOWS this.
Well, we work on collection...
- extended--- I can do this easily :P
Good for you but only a horse that can bend and be supple can do proper extensions.
The horse I ride can do it, and I know how to ask for it..
- bending--- have been practicing for approx. 3-4 months now... getting pretty good at it
If you are having problems just HOW are you able to do proper serpentines...not possible.
What problems??? Where did I state I have proplems?? I can do bending...
- serpentines--- have done this for a VERY long time, can do it right :)
They have to be done without bends then for you would not be saying getting pretty good at them but would be saying that they are perfect.
??? Doesn't make sense to me....

- figure 8's--- about 1.5 yrs practicing.. on and off.. pretty good.
- 5m, 10m, 15m, 20m circles-- easy as pie :)
A good trainer would NEVER be doing 5m circles, certainly not at walk.
Why not?? Why especially at the walk?? Why, itd be better to gallop them on a 5m!?
Trot:
- collected--- correctly:)
- extended--- sometimes needs an extra push to get her going on extended, but works well across long stretch of arena
This does not jive as extensions should have been established anywhere and no EXTRA push is needed if trained correctly
how is it my fault if the horse isnt trained correctly??
- bending--- bends to the inside, for some reason I am alot better bending at the trot than at the walk ;)
- 2-point--- learnt about a year ago.. havent been doing it much.. sometimes need extra pointers
- figure 8's--- pretty well
If you have trouble with the right lead how is this possible.
I don't have a clue what ur getting at... It's trotting!!! You don't have leads in the trot!
- serpentines--- mhmmm
- side pass--- so so. Lol...
If you have all the bending down pat this should not be on a so so level.
mixed with leg yield again..
- 10m, 15m, 20m circles-- YEAP!
- rising trot-- yes, been doing this since first started riding.. I can pick it up on the right diagonal as well ;}
What I said at walk applies here also and I would hope you can rise at the correct diagonal. What I find missing that really tells me about what level you are at is you have said NOTHING about sitting trot.
I can do sitting trot as well.. I prefer that :) but, my trainer makes me do rising :P

Canter:
- collected--- working on it
- extended--- easily.... seeing as she is a reining horse, pretty simple to get her going in the canter
You may get her going at a canter but speed does NOT = extended.
I know that, but it is alot easier... much easier than some lazy horse that doesnt even wanna canter..
- bending--- working on it
BIG problem here for you SHOULD be able to do this if all that you say you can do, you can.
??? Where did I say that's all I can do?? And, whats wrong with learning??
- 2-point--- pretty well
- figure 8's---- havent done much....
- 15m, 20m circles--- mhmmm
- knows right lead-- yeah, she is horrible at picking up her right lead though! HORRIBLE!! Lol.. that's what makes it tough and challenging.. but by the end of the day, we are perfecting it
By this point you should be picking up both leads easily and even should have the flying change established already..again if all that you say you can do, you can.
Why should I be?? It's the horse, she is sooo hard to get the right lead on! Even my trainer has troubles getting her on the right lead... We just started flying changes.. wow.. a way to make someone feel bad.

Jumping:
- cross rails (two point) cantering--- few times
- ground rails (two point) cantering--- tons
- 2 ft. (two point) cantering--- once or twice
To go beyond beginner you would be jumping 3'easily.
Why should I be??? I'm not in hunter jumpers! I am in english pleasure/dressage... I was just stating what I have done. Also, it isn't how high you jump. It's about how well you can do it... so are you saying that western riders should know how to jump over 3'??
     
    06-23-2009, 09:20 PM
  #24
Banned
The only thing I made a mistake on was the figure 8 which I had thought you had put in the canter part.

All the rest I stand behind and there is a sequence of learning that certain things are done first to built up to what comes next. Much like a house of cards.

Here is my analysis

Beginner beginner--has laid two or three cards down but not sure where to place them

Beginner medium--has figured out the first errors in card placement and has been able to add more cards to the point it is looking like something but any wind will disturb the whole set up.

Beginner advanced--has laid all the cards down but is in serious danger if a strong wind came up.

Intermediate beginner-- has started to built the walls but a strong wind will put it in danger but a breeze will have no effect

Intermediate medium--has almost all the walls up and can fix the odd error from the first set and breezes are nothing at all

Intermediate advanced--has all the walls up and capable of forming spaces within the structure based on knowledge attained

Advanced--beginner--started to complete the roof and has the knowlegde to see structure problems and fix most of them

Advanced medium--finishes the roof and able to add the more delicate structures like curtains and wiring and other internal structures

Advanced advanced--can look at the whole structure and imediately know where the problem is and fully capable of fixing anf only and outright F 5 storm that comes frome left field can topple this structure.

I would put the OP between Beginner medium and Beginner advanced.
     
    06-23-2009, 09:22 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Higher level intermediate.
     
    06-23-2009, 09:26 PM
  #26
Green Broke
No way on the higher level intermediate.
     
    06-23-2009, 09:59 PM
  #27
Started
I say there is NO way to tell without a video or at least pictures. I mean, I could have never ridden a horse before and just go google "leg yield, side pass, etc." and get great descriptions (not saying you did this). And I have a hard time believing you actually know what collection is if you believe it is easy. Collection is something people work year to acheive. It is not going slow, it is properly balancing the hore and getting the weight on to the hind end, well, honestly I've been riding for 8 years and I cannot explain it. It is never easy.
     
    06-23-2009, 10:15 PM
  #28
Green Broke
Some people confuse collection with head set too, that might be it.
     
    06-23-2009, 10:33 PM
  #29
Trained
Ok, nearly wrote something sarcastic that would probably sound mean, so, sorry for what I almost wrote :]

Will just watch this thread for a while.

Spyder, good posts.
     
    06-23-2009, 10:45 PM
  #30
Weanling
Spyder should analyze my level. -nod-
     

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