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    12-03-2010, 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by ponyboy    
I thought that geldings don\'t have as much heart as stallions (or even mares)?
I personally do not believe that at all. Any horse can have a huge amount of heart whether it is castrated or not.
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    12-03-2010, 10:02 PM
Green Broke
I had a trainer tell me about a stallion he knew. He said that he had to save this horses owners life twice from the stallion. The stallion would try and trample the owner, I forget the reasons why he acted like he did. That has allways made me a bit leary of studs.

Of course this is the exception, not the rule. And there could have been unsaid reasons for the studs behavior.
    12-03-2010, 10:31 PM
People generalise by gender, colour and breed far too much. Just because one chestnut is nutty, doesnt mean they all are. Just because one TB is spooky, doesnt mean they all are. Just because one stallion is savage, doesnt mean they all are. Just because one mare is grumpy, doesnt mean they all are.

You should deal with each horse individually and work with their personality, not by any "stereotyping" brought about by their appearance or gender.
    12-03-2010, 10:33 PM
I have ridden a few stallions. One was rather a jerk, but he was able to get away with stuff. He was not dangerous, just macho.
The other two stallions had been bred and shown and used as ranch horses, they were well mannered, easy to be around and no problems.
I went riding with two friends this fall, one lady was riding a mare, leading another and I was riding mine. The other lady was riding a Morgan stallion. He has been used at stud, shown, pulls carts, etc and in front of the other mares, between us or in the rear, he never showed one ounce of stallion behavior at all.
Good training is good training no matter what sex the horse is.
    12-03-2010, 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by ponyboy    
I thought that geldings don't have as much heart as stallions (or even mares)?
I just meant they are as calm and nice to ride as geldings with proper training. But you are right, stallions have more "charisma" (not very positive it's a right word here, but I can't think of a different word) than geldings (so stallions are often a choice in high level dressage arena).
    12-03-2010, 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by kmacdougall    
I personally do not believe that at all. Any horse can have a huge amount of heart whether it is castrated or not.
It's not so much about "heart", it's about how they "present" themselves (at least that's my understanding of the statement). Mares and stallions really like to "show off" (not saying all, but definitely many), while I've never seen a real "show off" in geldings.
    12-03-2010, 10:50 PM
A stallion, just like any other horse, is only as good as his training. If he is taught from day 1 to be respectful and obedient, then that's what he'll be. I've known lots of folks that you would have thought were riding geldings, even around mares in heat.

On the other hand, when a stallion receives bad training, they are a holy terror. My Dad rode a horse years ago that was a stud. Beautiful thing with amazing color and conformation. He had been sent to a different 'halter' trainer as a yearling and had been horribly spoiled. Because that guy was a mushy touchy feely type trainer, Quest never got any correction on his bad behavior. He learned that being aggressive and obstinate would get the people to go away and leave him alone. He ended up being an incredibly dangerous horse that very few people could successfully handle. He finally learned to respect my Dad after frequent sessions that bordered on downright cruelty. However, he would still lunge the bars of the stall whenever a person or another horse went by, and when he got tired or mad, he would kick, paw, bite, charge and there was nothing you could do to stop him. He was out for blood. Shortly after my Dad stopped training for the owners, Quest got a groom down in his stall and dang near killed him. Amazingly enough, less than 3 months later, Quest was dead at 4 years old. The owners claimed blister beetles but my Dad highly suspects a couple of ping-pong balls in the nostrils for the insurance money.

Anyway, sorry, that was kind of off topic LOL.
    12-03-2010, 11:23 PM
It all depends on the stallions temperment, training, and the rider.
I know an Arab stud that is a pain to ride, and will freak out under saddle, and will bolt, rear, ect.
But then my barns AQHA stud, Gizmo (It Paid to Be Good), acts like a gelding. You can walk a mare past him in the cross ties, and he stands still, head forward. You can ride any type of horse with him in the arena, and he acts like a complete gentleman, which is what all stallions should be like.
    12-03-2010, 11:51 PM
Green Broke
All depends on the Stallion, but essentialy they arethe same as geldings you just have to be a bit more aware of what people around you are doing. Over here it is not unusual for 14 yearold kids to ride small breed M&M stallions at shows.

Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
It's not so much about "heart", it's about how they "present" themselves (at least that's my understanding of the statement). Mares and stallions really like to "show off" (not saying all, but definitely many), while I've never seen a real "show off" in geldings.
You obviously havnt been looking very hard. Take one look at the UK show ring! The Only classes where stallions are allowed in showing is in the M&M's and the coloured classes. All other classes are geldings and mares only and usualy geldings are winning!

You can get true sparkle from a gelding! When Riding stan who was a gelding (and it was a **** shame that he was cut) we regularly beat stallions. My dad calls showing a "shiney pony contest" but it is all about ring presence and making your perfectly put together, perfectly mannered pony stand out from all the rest of the perfectly mannered, perfectly put together ponies.

Stan used to play to a crowd, the bigger the crowd the better he went! He had the Xfactor, that bit of sparkle that made him stand out from a crowd. 3 days before he died stan won a large M&M class, there was 15 Very good quality, well mannered ponies in the class (mares geldings and stallions), stan was double the age of other the oldest pony, stan had just come back from injury, he was significantly smaller as well (size does matter as it fills the judges eye more). Stan just pootled along perfectly as stan was want to do and obviously he sparkled enough to get the judges attention and keep it!
    12-04-2010, 12:41 AM
I would trust a complete beginner on my stallion anywhere anytime. He is always a complete gentleman when handled and is usually quieter than any mare or gelding around. He knows when he is being handled that he is expected to have manners and knows the rules. I've worked with quite a few stallions and the only thing I've really noticed is that since they are often secluded from other horses they tend to bond very strongly to one person. I love that about my boy. :)
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