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post #11 of 54 Old 04-07-2010, 08:00 AM
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Many horsess have white hair/fur, straight pure white, but as mentioned, they weren't all born this way, other than horses of colour. The reason a "white" horse is referred to as grey I believe is to distinguish between the albinos and "white" horses (many if not most are born darker, also mentioned above). I could be wrong here but I think albinism was not ever common but was more just a bit more frequently occuring in history back.

Also, the difference in terms could relate to the skin colours of each horse. The "grey" having black skin and an "unofficial" white being pink. Or not... : )
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post #12 of 54 Old 04-07-2010, 06:10 PM
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Good answers, guys!
But isn't there the Lethal White gene?
I just started reading up on that! It looks like LW is a problem with the paint/pinto Frame pattern gene; in the homozygous form the foal is born solid white, and without a functioning digestive tract and generally dies within a few days.

White Patterns | www.equine-color.info
The LW info is a bit down the page with the section on Frame.

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Ok, I have heard this what do other people think?
I have been told paints have pink skin which makes them white, and grey horses have black skin which makes them grey.

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^^ I think that's correct, but......... don't out bay horses have black skin,too?
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post #15 of 54 Old 04-07-2010, 06:42 PM
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I think the so-called "albino" horses talked about on that website are most likely just Ww horses that are double dilutes underneath, although I could be wrong about this. Either way, there are no true albino horses, although white horses definitely exist. They just aren't very common.
Nope, Albino horses don't exist, white fur+ black skin+brown-amber eyes=gray and white fur+ pink skin+ blue eyes= double dilute creme gene. And an albino HAS to have red eyes or it is just a double dilute.

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The confusion is because a Paint/pinto that is completely white will not necessarily pass that trait on to a foal. No one knows what determines how much white vs. color a Paint/pinto will have. An all-white Paint/pinto is not really a white horse, they're a Paint/pinto with a white spot so big it covers their entire body. If we called them white it would imply that they have a "white coat" gene, which they don't. They have a "colored coat" gene.

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Nope, Albino horses don't exist, white fur+ black skin+brown-amber eyes=gray and white fur+ pink skin+ blue eyes= double dilute creme gene. And an albino HAS to have red eyes or it is just a double dilute.

Yes.. and another point is that albinism is a metabolic disorder. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what color genes a horse has.
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^ Was just about to post that - Albinism does NOT exist in horses. I believe it's lethal at embryonic stage?

There are many dilutions that make a horse look white, but most all white horses are simply fully greyed out greys, or I beleive maximum sabino?

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Yeah maximum sabino is what I meant with all-white Paints/Pintos.
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Nope, Albino horses don't exist, white fur+ black skin+brown-amber eyes=gray and white fur+ pink skin+ blue eyes= double dilute creme gene. And an albino HAS to have red eyes or it is just a double dilute.
Not sure if you thought I was saying Albinos existed in horses, since you quoted my post, but I was not, I know there's no such thing. Although White horses most definitely do exist, you just don't see a true white horse very often.
And like ponyboy said, there is a difference between a "white" pinto & a true white horse. Homozygous Frame is lethal, as is Homozygous White, but they are different genes.
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