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    04-08-2010, 01:20 AM
  #21
Yearling
Most 'white' horses people see are grays,


However there are also cremellos and perlinos that get confused for whites.

But there are white horses, they are generally an extreme expression of pinto pattern, genetically they could be any color, but white may be all you can see. In my opinion I would call that a white, if I owned one and was asked the color I'd say white. Now if I was planning to breed it (or standing at stud) I would need to know the genetics behind it, and probably wouldn't call it 'just white'. I don't really think they are that rare, I can think of three here locally. White pony mare down the road w/ blue eyes, had a white foal w/ brown eyes. Another guy in town has a little blue eyed white mare. That's three I can think of in this little town.

The most obvious way to tell the difference is their skin, gray's have dark skin, cremellos/perlinos have pinkish skin, but it's a creamier color of pink (hard to explain) skin and their eyes tend to be a very pale blue. White horses have very pink skin and may have blue or brown eyes, typically the blue eyes are brighter then a cremellos. I'd say the biggest health issue would be sun burn, I've heard people say their bodies can burn, but their faces are all I've had experience w/ them burning, and that's any white faced horse. And if they have pink around their eyes they can be more prone to skin cancer there.
     
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    04-08-2010, 02:30 AM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Quixotic    
Not sure if you thought I was saying Albinos existed in horses, since you quoted my post, but I was not, I know there's no such thing. Although White horses most definitely do exist, you just don't see a true white horse very often.
And like ponyboy said, there is a difference between a "white" pinto & a true white horse. Homozygous Frame is lethal, as is Homozygous White, but they are different genes.
I didn't mean it toward you at all. I just wanted to make it clear to anyone who might not know or bight have been told that there are albino horses(double diluted with blue eyes are often called albino...) that albinism is not possible in horses for some reason, as WS said it is lethal in the embrionic stage so the embryo never develops into a foal.
     
    04-08-2010, 02:32 AM
  #23
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Originally Posted by haviris    

The most obvious way to tell the difference is their skin, gray's have dark skin, cremellos/perlinos have pinkish skin, but it's a creamier color of pink (hard to explain) skin and their eyes tend to be a very pale blue. .
The color of skin you are thinking is "peach" which is very common in double dilute horses, a sort of light pink tinged with a bit of orange, more like peach ice cream color.
     
    04-08-2010, 02:06 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by ponyboy    
An all-white Paint/pinto is not really a white horse, they're a Paint/pinto with a white spot so big it covers their entire body. If we called them white it would imply that they have a "white coat" gene, which they don't. They have a "colored coat" gene.
Sure. Like the white text on my computer screen isn't really white, 'cause it's a bunch of red, green, and blue pixels. The fact that it LOOKS white is just an illusion, and completely irrelevant, no?

So you've got a bunch of horses standing in a field, and you ask someone who knows nothing about equine genetics what the colors are, don't you suppose they can tell white from grey?
     
    04-08-2010, 03:36 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by jamesqf    
Sure. Like the white text on my computer screen isn't really white, 'cause it's a bunch of red, green, and blue pixels. The fact that it LOOKS white is just an illusion, and completely irrelevant, no?

So you've got a bunch of horses standing in a field, and you ask someone who knows nothing about equine genetics what the colors are, don't you suppose they can tell white from grey?
No need to be rude. We are simply explaining the science behind it. I don't really agree with it, but scientifically, it makes sense.
     
    04-08-2010, 06:16 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by usmanjilani    
is their some sort of genetic defect in horses that have WHITE COLOUR..........................or its just a colour, no problem in horse..........
Perhaps I read the OP wrong or maybe this thread just got off track with the discussion about white horses, or perhaps this is just semantics, but obviously there are horses with a lot of 'real' white (with pink skin) on them. Here is our tovero Paint mare...I refer to her as our 'mainly white' mare, though she is 'officially' chestnut.

     
    04-08-2010, 06:31 PM
  #27
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Originally Posted by PaintHorseMares    
Perhaps I read the OP wrong or maybe this thread just got off track with the discussion about white horses, or perhaps this is just semantics, but obviously there are horses with a lot of 'real' white (with pink skin) on them. Here is our tovero Paint mare...I refer to her as our 'mainly white' mare, though she is 'officially' chestnut.

A chestnut? Or a chestnut tovero?
     
    04-08-2010, 06:43 PM
  #28
Trained
Genetically, she has a chestnut base (ee) and the tovero (?) pattern is just overlaying that.
     
    04-08-2010, 07:13 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Genetically, she has a chestnut base (ee) and the tovero (?) pattern is just overlaying that.
Yes, a chestnut color, tovero pattern. Her color is in only one large area on the other side (looks like South America). Other than that (and the head and tail coloring), she's completely white.

     
    04-08-2010, 07:18 PM
  #30
Yearling
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Originally Posted by jamesqf    
Sure. Like the white text on my computer screen isn't really white, 'cause it's a bunch of red, green, and blue pixels. The fact that it LOOKS white is just an illusion, and completely irrelevant, no?

So you've got a bunch of horses standing in a field, and you ask someone who knows nothing about equine genetics what the colors are, don't you suppose they can tell white from grey?
Your computer screen has white text? That's cool - I like reversed screens to.

If I had to describe a "white" horse to someone who knew nothing about horses, I'd use the word white at first... But then I would explain what the horse actually is. It wouldn't hurt the person to learn something new.
     

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