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post #1 of 18 Old 05-26-2010, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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That whole "Image Thing".

Why is it that so many seem to be so sensitive and touchy about us riders who have a preferance for a certain "image" or style of dress?

From cowboy hats to boots...it is an image and an adherance to an age old tradition which some of us hold to and enjoy. But as soon as the slightest referance is made to us prefering somethng like hats over helmets because of image...some very touchy individuals feel they are being attacked and/or miligned...condescended upon.

I mean, there are REASONS why some prefer helmets and there are REASONS why some of us prefer hats. Now WHY is that so offensive to some. Are our hats really that powerful? Why is the voicing of our very valid reasons so hard to be respected?

Is this a forum that caters to both western and engish styles of dress and practice, or does it really kind of favour one over the other? Why is there a sympathy toward the English style or the helmet wearers?

Then they say, "it is your attitude". Attitude...shmattitude.

If an old timer were to come on here. Like someone who couldn't even type and had to get his wife or daughter to type for him....and told everyone something to this effect... "Now you youngsters, you go ahead and use those new fangled head gadgets if'n yer wanting to, but this old weather worn, tattered and stained hat has stood me well over the past 30, 40 years, and I'd feel naked and foolish with one of those things on. This old hat carries a lagacy of a life-style and experience, and I wouldn't trade it fer nothin. Now, you all do what suits yer fancy (Martha, yu gettin this down?)....wear dem new head gears if you like, but don touch ma hat! No sirree!"

Now what yu gonna do? Are you going to repect that old timer? Are you big enough to put your helmet back on and ride off feeling good about yerself? Or are you so small that you can't see past yer chin strap?

What yu gonna do if someone comes on here saying, "Looky here you whippersnappers, my grandpappy used to say, 'if'n yu caint stay yer saddle for a good 10 hour day...yu aint worth yer salt' !"

What you gonna do? Respect those old timers and pioneers of the west, or take offense and grasp like a confused mule for you're true identity?

I think we're due some thicker skins and some larger hearts to take in and respect where everyone is coming from. God help to at least have moderators who have some semblance of accurate judgement and oversight.
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post #2 of 18 Old 05-26-2010, 04:23 PM
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Why is this stuck in your craw? Some people prefer/need to wear a helmet, some a ball cap, some a western hat. I ride with some outstanding cowboys - that make 100% of their living off of horses and cattle. Most of them wear regular ball caps while working. They only put on traditional headgear for show or competition.

As far as I can see - YOU are the one making a big deal of the head gear.

And FYI - the type of old timer you refer to would not waste his time debating or defending their rights via an internet chat board. They defend what they believe but they never start the war.
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Why is this stuck in your craw? Some people prefer/need to wear a helmet, some a ball cap, some a western hat. I ride with some outstanding cowboys - that make 100% of their living off of horses and cattle. Most of them wear regular ball caps while working. They only put on traditional headgear for show or competition.

As far as I can see - YOU are the one making a big deal of the head gear.

And FYI - the type of old timer you refer to would not waste his time debating or defending their rights via an internet chat board. They defend what they believe but they never start the war.
I'll still be waitin for an answer. I went on to the other "helmet" thread and made a very short statement agreeing with soemone about the preferance of a cowboy hat and no need for a helmet, and someone came on immediately saying, "now let's keep it away from the image thing. Let's cool it now".

Eh? Did I miss something?

Like I said, I'll be waiting for an answer to the over sensitivity and apparent identity crisis.
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There was a time when people didn't 'believe in' seatbelts either ;)

Why not embrace newfound technology that might save your life in an accident?

Personally, I wear a helmet. My thinking is that I have invested too much into my head (and life) to not take the precaution; on top of that, I grew up wearing a helmet through me early riding career, so it's partly habit too.
Having said that, I'm absolutely fine with others not wanting to wear one.


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I'll still be waitin for an answer. I went on to the other "helmet" thread and made a very short statement agreeing with soemone about the preferance of a cowboy hat and no need for a helmet, and someone came on immediately saying, "now let's keep it away from the image thing. Let's cool it now".

Eh? Did I miss something?

Like I said, I'll be waiting for an answer to the over sensitivity and apparent identity crisis.
YOU insinuate those that wear helmets are inferior. Those that wear "cowboy" hats are better.

I don't wear a helmet the majority of the time and I find offense in your attitude. If you have a question for a specific poster - ask them via PM.

And I will ask you again - why can't you let this go? I'll still be waitin for an answer . . .
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Why is the voicing of our very valid reasons so hard to be respected?
Respect (in its highest form) is a two way street. I will respect your decision to not wear a helmet as long as I get the same respect for my decision to wear a brain bucket.

Also, please realize that different people have differing ideas on helmets and safety; some people will be absolutely fine with you not wearing a helmet, some will try and convince you that it's in your best interest to wear a helmet. Your best bet is to say "thank you for being concerned with my health," smile (metaphorically) and walk away.
You're going to find differing opinions on just about everything on the internet; you gotta learn to pick your battles or you're liable to get a heart problem.


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Please stop beating this dead horse, hire a backhoe, and bury the poor thing in the backyard.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is tired of trying to decode your often deplorable language to try and get a meaning out of your posts, only to discover that it is in fact a redundant point that myself as well as many others has heard, and moved on from, which apparently is something you cannot quite bring yourself to do.
Good day, sir.

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First respect is earned not given.

second what a person puts on their back does not define who they are. Waring a cowboy hat boots and so on does not make you a cowboy.

I asked you this question on the other thread and you never did answer me.

What would change if you took off your cowboy hat and put on a helmet?? What would change if you did not have cowboy boots on??

Would that change who you are inside?? What makes a person is not what is on the out side which you seem to think. It is what is on the inside. Some of the toughest guys I know where pink. You do now real men do ware pink?? Right you did know that??


So again I am going to remind you that this is not a place to put people down b/c of what is on their backs or heads. I am all for a good debate however this one has been debated to death. So unless there is something new to add this thread WILL be short lived.

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Please nrh, put this thread out of its misery.

I think I know from which BB RHK came, and if memory serves me correctly he wore out his welcome there, too.

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I am off to deliver some photo proofs. I will see how things are going when I get back. Have fun and stay civil.

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