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        10-19-2012, 01:47 PM
      #51
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    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    That's not riding Western tiny, that's just riding poorly in a Western saddle. Two entirely different things.

    It's the same thing as slapping an English saddle on a horse and thinking you're now an English rider. Um, no.

    Yes, that is certainly true.
         
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        10-19-2012, 01:56 PM
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    Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
    And yeah, always is the ponies.
    Ponies are evil because they're closer to Hell than regular sized horses.
         
        10-19-2012, 02:10 PM
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    That's not riding Western tiny, that's just riding poorly in a Western saddle. Two entirely different things.

    It's the same thing as slapping an English saddle on a horse and thinking you're now an English rider. Um, no.
    Agree, there's a huge difference between being a passenger and a rider. There's horrid examples in every discipline.

    I do agree with Tiny though in a way, look at trail riding outfits that haul out first time "riders", having that horn and weight spread out over a larger area is a good plan and is likely easier for "rider" and horse alike. Do we consider those folks riders, not likely but what are they going to tell their friends when they go home? They rode a horse. Poorly most likely but still rode. Let's call it riding by technicality

    I very much agree with the rest of Tiny's post. There's a darn good chance that watching any beginner rider either discipline that it will be ugly at some point. For me starting out western gave me super soft, quiet hands that translated well when I started riding english.

    What bothers me most about this is that being critical of other disciplines without the knowledge is kind of sad. Being closed minded takes away the opportunity to try and possibly like something new or learn something different that you can use as general horsemanship. I've never shown dressage or pleasure driving, still on the list though.
         
        10-19-2012, 02:10 PM
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    Yep Speed, so so SO true. One of the reasons I love them. Mine had a super-evil magic bucking power that meant he didn't have to put any actual effort in, but barely anyone could stay on for more than 2 or 3 in a row. I stand by the statement that if you can ride a naughty pony, you can ride ANYTHING.
         
        10-19-2012, 02:10 PM
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    Ponies are evil because they're closer to Hell than regular sized horses.
    Or because they are usually as wide as they are tall and it's not easy to ride out a bucking fit doing the splits
         
        10-19-2012, 02:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
    I stand by the statement that if you can ride a naughty pony, you can ride ANYTHING.
    And that is why I'm firmly in favor of starting kiddies on ponies, first the school master, then the errr 'pony full of character', weeds out those who don't want to put the effort in, and teaches you to sit on, I may not be the greatest rider in the world, but I can stick fairly well, due in part to my small pony training as a kid.
         
        10-19-2012, 02:16 PM
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    I never had any pony training indoctrination as a youngster because I never got to ride until I was an adult, but I think pony sized Arabians count!
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        10-19-2012, 02:19 PM
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    the errr 'pony full of character', weeds out those who don't want to put the effort in
    This made me giggle. My kiddo arranged herself a free lease pony over the summer, a cute, roly poly little welsh cross that rode & drove (jumped but she is not yet - mean mom says no). He was a cute litle guy but he was the typical as you called it errr 'pony full of character'. They got along fine but he was rotten. Summer ends, time to decide if we were buying and she says "We can take him back mom, he was fun but I want to ride Missy now." She gave up the cute roly poly for the 16.3 gentle giant
         
        10-19-2012, 02:20 PM
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    Late to the game hereÖ
    I started riding at 3 and I rode in whatever the adults put me in, which was sometimes western because that is how they rode, but more often than not it was just bareback.
    Everyone where I lived rode western and laughed at anything other than, even my bareback riding, so that was the norm.

    At 12 or 13 my mom dug out an old (old!) English saddle of hers from way back and told me she was going to give me some lessons (she was trying to revisit her english years from her own childhood.)
    Hated it. Saddle was 100 times too big and meant to fit a fin backed horse, not my plump tabletop Morgan mare, who had the worst high leg action and fast trot to boot because she had been driving horse. Plus a person really canít teach what they donít know so it was a disaster.
    Ugh! Swore I would never suffer the bruises upon bruises ever again.

    A few years later we moved to an all English, pony clubbing, HJ, foxhunting and eventing area. So now I was laughed at for my western saddle and attire.
    I was of an age where I didnít really want to stick out and draw attention so decided to give it another try, this time from a qualified instructor with proper fitting saddles on well trained horses.

    I swear I heard harp music and the clouds parted for a sunbeam to shine down upon me! It was almost as good as riding bareback in terms of communication and feel, but more secure. Riding English fit me like a glove and made me feel like I had sprouted wings, so I never looked back! Over the years from time to time I have had to sit in a few western saddles and they feel so clunky. Like there is a wall between me and the horseÖ.. I canít tell what they are thinking or feeling, or if they are bunching their muscles for something like a spook fit or a jump or anything. Makes me feel like a sitting duck on something I canĎt read.
         
        10-19-2012, 02:26 PM
      #60
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    And that is why I'm firmly in favor of starting kiddies on ponies, first the school master, then the errr 'pony full of character', weeds out those who don't want to put the effort in, and teaches you to sit on, I may not be the greatest rider in the world, but I can stick fairly well, due in part to my small pony training as a kid.
    hahahahahaha my only naughty pony experience came when I got the pony I was talking about, when I was 14! Beforehand I had been on schoolmasters, the put up with ANYTHING type. Naughty one put up with anything but was a brat in the process. Amazing with kids though... just rotten for me!
         

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