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    07-05-2011, 12:35 AM
  #1
Weanling
Why the meat truck comment all the time?

I don't mean this to sound combative. I've spent the past year on several horse forums. This is a serious question. Why do people always resort to the meat truck comment as though they had no other choice for their horse?

For example, I was just reading in that long thread about the problem horse that someone bought a horse, tried and tried and then said she gave her away and she probably went on a meat truck.

Are there no vets around to euthanize a horse? If I had a problem horse and I tried the very best I could and decided I wasn't the home for him/her, the first thing I'd do of course is try to find another home. Full disclosure on the issues I was having. Even if it meant giving it away.

But if nobody wanted the horse and it was deemed dangerous, I'd like to think that an equine vet would euthanize it. I cannot fathom giving a horse away or selling it to a meat buyer. I can't imagine sending it to auction not knowing if it will be bought by a loving home or a meat buyer.

Are there occasions that a vet wouldn't euthanize? It just seems like the kinder and even more responsible option.
I'm sure it's expensive. But could it be more than a few months of what food and care for a horse would be anyway?

Again, serious question. It just sounds like a lot of people infer they had no choice but to sell the horse to a meat buyer when I would think/hope that euthanasia is a choice.
     
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    07-05-2011, 12:42 AM
  #2
Showing
While you may not be able to fathom selling a horse to a meat buyer, it happens all the time. People either don't want to or can't afford euthanization and to properly dispose of the body. Disposing of the body is quite a large problem - even if you go with the $0.10 euthanasia option, you still have to figure out what to do with the body.
Plus, gaining a few bucks for meat price is mighty appealing to many people, especially when the alternative is spending a few hundred + for euthanization and disposal. Beyond that, a person can send a horse to a sale and pretend in their minds that the horse went to a loving home where it will live out its days happy as a clam. A person can just dump a horse at a sale and promptly make up whatever fantasy ending they had for said horse.
     
    07-05-2011, 12:53 AM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
While you may not be able to fathom selling a horse to a meat buyer, it happens all the time. People either don't want to or can't afford euthanization and to properly dispose of the body.
Plus, gaining a few hundred bucks for meat price is mighty appealing to many people, especially when the alternative is spending a few hundred + for euthanization and disposal. Beyond that, a person can send a horse to a sale and pretend in their minds that the horse went to a loving home where it will live out its days happy as a clam. A person can just dump a horse at a sale and promptly make up whatever fantasy ending they had for said horse.
But what I don't understand is why people make it sound like they had no choice but to send it to a meat buyer. I get that it's an option, but I don't see how it is spun like it's the only option.

Okay, let's say a person sends their horse to auction and pretends it went to a loving home and wasn't killed. I guess that would be the equivalent of a person who brings a dog or cat to the pound and just pretends it was adopted instead ending up out the back door in a plastic bag.

But what about people who just flat out sell to a meat buyer and act like they had no other option? I don't get that.

I don't want to single a person out, but the person in the other thread is what I'm talking about.

They took the time and money to bring in trainers and said they just gave it all trying for this horse. Then she tried to find another home and nobody wanted it. At that point, why not just have it euthanized where you know it's just going peacefully in its sleep?

I can see how a horse DEALER would sell to a meat buyer.

I can't see how a person could say they put so much time and money into their beloved pet but then had no choice but to sell it to the meat buyer?

See what I mean? Sure euthanizing is expensive. But like I said, if you have a horse that you planned on feeding and providing vet care for, and brought in trainers for, how can you suddenly not have the funds when it comes to euthanizing?

Are there places where there are no vets around to euthanize? I've never lived anyplace extremely rural so maybe there are places where you pretty much would have to shoot your horse or sell it to a meat buyer? I don't know.

I would not keep a horse around if I felt I was in danger. I don't see a problem with finding a good home for a horse if things aren't working out. But I do think an owner owes their horse to opt for euthanizing over the meat truck. Gosh even a bullet to the head is better than the haul to Mexico with a knife in their neck. Even the worst horse deserves better.
     
    07-05-2011, 12:55 AM
  #4
Weanling
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you still have to figure out what to do with the body.
Do vets ever dispose of the body? I know you can pay to have them dispose of a dog or cat. What about a horse? I would think and hope that there is some type of disposal service.
What about if a horse dies on your property? What happens to the body then?
     
    07-05-2011, 12:59 AM
  #5
Showing
This is coming down to the whole slaughter debate again. Some people feel it's perfectly fine to sell a horse to meat - they are livestock, after all. Some people feel it's wrong to sell a horse to meat, they feel that horses are pets.

Disposal can be a problem in some areas. Not impossible, I'm sure if you searched long and hard enough you'd find some option in nearly every instance, but it comes down to whether or not it's feasable. Some horse owners live paycheque to paycheque, and simply can't afford a vet or disposal. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying it's a simple fact of life.
     
    07-05-2011, 01:08 AM
  #6
Weanling
I definitely do not want to get into the slaughter debate. I've read those ad nauseum.

I don't mean this to get into the territory of is it moral to sell horses for meat. (for me personally, a horse is a pet and I wouldn't sell my horse for meat any sooner than I'd sell my dog or cat) BUT that is not the issue.....

I was asking seriously why some people make it sound like they didn't have a choice but to sell to a meat buyer. If you chose to do it, then fine. Just say, " I made the choice...."

It's making it sound like you had NO choice that I'm not understanding. That's why I was asking.

I was really wondering if some people live in places so rural that there are no vets around? Or is it hard to find an equine vet who will euthanize?
I know there are plenty of dealers and traders who will sell a horse for meat and not bat an eye.

I was just having a hard time understanding a scenerio where a person bought a horse for a pet, paid trainers to help with behaviors, planned on spending X dollars a month in food and vet bills.....but then it ends up on the meat truck because it's cheaper than euthanizing.

So can I assume that these comments are just people making it sound like they had no choice but to send the horse on the meat truck? I mean, if someone feels that's their right to do it, then why not just say that? Why make it sound like a sob story where you just didn't have the choice?
I'd respect a person more if they said they shot their own horse than the person who make it sound like there were violins playing as they sadly collected their money from the meat buyer.
     
    07-05-2011, 01:33 AM
  #7
Showing
My guess is that if they posted "welp, selling to the meat buyer" rather than making it out to be a big sad sob story, people would jump on them for being insensitive.
Darned if you do, darned if you don't.
Euthanization doesn't have to be the pink stuff in a syringe, either. A bullet is just as effective, just not as "pretty" if you will.
I'm willing to bet that IF someone really wanted to, they could likely figure out a way to euthanize rather than sell to the meat man. Some people don't have the time, energy, or budget to explore those routes. I won't get into the ethics of it, but for some people, euthanization isn't feasible for one reason or another. I'm sure most could rather not sell to the meat man, and some don't care.
     
    07-05-2011, 06:59 AM
  #8
Showing
People look at horses differently. I would NOT put my horses at the auction (aka meat truck in many cases). However I know plenty of people, who have no problem sending horse to the auction.
     
    07-05-2011, 08:53 AM
  #9
Started
I have found that people (in general) will only do what's best for them, NOT what's best for the animal, whether it be a dog, cat or horse, etc. Seen too many people that wouldn't put poor little FiFi down because THEY couldn't stand to lose their pet. It didn't matter that little FiFi was old as the hills, incontinent, blind and toothless. I personnaly wouldn't sell to a meat truck and would shoot my horse myself if I couldn't afford a vet.
     
    07-05-2011, 09:04 AM
  #10
Banned
I live in a pretty rural area and there's not really any good horse vets here. The one that is a horse vet doesn't care about horses and takes horse meds for headaches and the closest better vets are 45 minutes up to an hour away. But all the vets I know will euthanize a horse.
If somebody just sells them for slaughter before trying to sell them to an individual buyer it tells me they don't care one bit about that horse and just want it gone. For me, none of the horses I will ever sell are going to see an auction. I've been to one horse sale and that made up my mind right then. Selling them to anyone who I think is shady or just wanting to sell for slaughter won't buy my horses either.
I know in some areas you can't bury a horse and in that case it's either burn them or have someone come get the body.
If you can bury them you're going to need a backhoe and if you don't own one you may have a hard time finding someone to dig a hole and get the horse buried and it may be expensive. If you have the space where you can just drag the body off in an isolated corner and let it decompose that is an option. Growing up on the farm we had an area in the woods where cows were dragged to decompose and I had to do that with 2 horses who died. My preference is to bury them but that wasn't an option. So yes, sometimes you have no way of disposing the body but I don't think selling a horse to slaughter should be your first option. Every owner should be responsible enough to make sure they do all they can to send them to good homes.
     

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