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post #51 of 55 Old 07-06-2011, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
I believe I sent a horse to slaughter.

My horses are pets to me, I love them dearly - but I made a terrible error a few years ago and bought one that must have been drugged. It took several weeks for the true personality to show, however when it did, the horse was completely dangerous. She could not be led without rearing (full rear, full height).
Under saddle it was worse, she would turn into a bucking bronco ride. Rear, buck, rear, rear, buck, twist. She was terrible. So I rode her in the walk only for about a year, that didn't help. I took her back to basics and restarted her, that didn't work. She would charge at me in the round pen, and it was not because I was not assertive enough. I had 3 different trainers work with her, nothing helped.

I owned her for 2 years, spent a fortune on her and a lot of my own time trying to get her right. Myself and three trainers were not able to. She was just dangerous. I did not want to put her in an auction, she could not have been ridden through it or if she was, that would have guaranteed her slaughter.

So I listed her for sale for $100 negotiable. I listed all of her problems, was completely honest. I thought the $100 price would put off meat men. After four months, I had no interest and had spent more than $1k on board. So I listed her for free.

A pleasant couple came out to see her with a trailer. I was completely upfront about her behavior, they were unconcerned and claimed they had trained many horses. they saw her antics when we tried to load her, even with Ace she was rearing like crazy, they were still unconcerned and we loaded her with a chain through her mouth after about an hour of trying everything else.

It just doesn't make sense to me that she did not go for meat, why on earth would they want her. However they said the right things, so I felt it was worth a chance.

I am not against horse slaughter, I would not want my horses to go to it though. There was a chance they were telling the truth, and I thought it was worth taking that chance.
Sadly, there are people who make a living posing as great potential owners when that is not their intention. That's why they show up with a trailer, ask all the right questions & never have a problem with behavior issues. They target the free or cheap ads & hopeful people.
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post #52 of 55 Old 07-06-2011, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by natisha View Post
Sadly, there are people who make a living posing as great potential owners when that is not their intention. That's why they show up with a trailer, ask all the right questions & never have a problem with behavior issues. They target the free or cheap ads & hopeful people.

I don't doubt that - that's why I started my post with I think I sold a horse to slaughter. (ETA sold is not the right word, I gave her away)
It seemed so very unlikely that they would want her and be unconcerned with her issues. If they had not taken her, I would have euthed her, she was just too dangerous, so I figured it was at least worth the chance that they were truthful.

I am not against horse slaughter, I am against the long drives to get there - however, this might be a terrible thing to say but I had very little feelings for that horse. This does not mean I would wish her ill or pain, however I certainly did not love her - care about her welfare yes, love no. If she ended up at slaughter, I am sorry that she endured the trip there and the stress, but I am not sorry that she has passed on.

I let them drive off with her knowing it was a strong possibility but it was worth the chance to me, as she would have been PTS anyway soon.

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Alex, I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's horrible how people can drug horses to sell them. Then try to accuse them of it, and all you'll hear is, "Well they never did that here! I sold you a bombproof horse. You must have ruined them " I'm sure there are decent horse traders out there, but so many of them are such scam artists. They'll use their kids or their grandma to lie for them.
It sounds like you did everything you could for that horse. I mean, you gave her a chance and who knows? Maybe they just wanted a project. I know there are plenty of people that like the challenge. Not me! lol.
It's okay to not have mushy feelings toward a horse. There is a horse at the barn that I often ride whom I really don't care for at all. I do feel safe riding her, but she's just a total witch on the ground. She's bitten me several times for doing horrible things to her like grooming or putting her halter on. I definitely don't have any feelings of love for her so I get that. A rearing horse? No love from me.

But I think we can mostly all agree that killing horses is the only option because there simply aren't enough homes for all of them. Somebody has to go. I just don't agree with the current methods of slaughter now. I couldn't send a horse on a meat truck and sleep at night unless I truly explored every single option. I could honestly go out and shoot a horse myself before letting it go on a meat truck. A good horse would be buried under the elms. A butthole would be food for the coyotes.

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Thanks for understanding Heelsdown, I was nervous to share my story as I do love my horse, I have loved every one of them until this mare. I didn't love this horse, but I did not want any bad to come to her.

I really felt like these people were meat dealers, but they said everything right, they were not worried as they were going to put a war bridle on her. I doubt that, and I think she probably went for meat - but my next step was to get a vet out to euth anyway, so death was the ultimate option. I felt she may as well have the chance that they were telling the truth as I can't ever really know who I sell to, only how they present.

Interestingly though, I bought her from a late teenage girl (she was in the 19-20 range). I called her and got that teenage high pitched girl voice saying 'I can't imagine why she is reacting like that'! Right. I didn't bother calling again.
I since bought my Lucas from a horse trader who presented him accurately, and he has proven in the 2 years I have had him that he is as great as she said.

Not including boarding costs or vets I spent over $15k in two years on a horse I could not ride and could not be lead. I am not a novice owner and I could not afford to keep going with that, three trainers were enough. I did give the 3rd trainer a lot less time than the first two but he said he did not think he could help - and I had spent more than I had available on a $2k horse.

I believe she went to meat, unless someone pulled her out of a Camelot type lot, she had near perfect confirmation, but I doubt it.

I lost sleep about my decision to not just have her PTS, but I think the off chance that she got a home is worth it.
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It's always possible a person is lying. But if they told you they wanted to work with her, it's definitely possible they did. At that point, you were giving her a chance. You let her go and hope for the best.
I think it's very different from someone who takes an old/injured/problem horse to an auction knowing it's going to most likely not get bought and then just walks away telling themselves the horse found a good home. That isn't being realistic or honest. Your situation is different. They said they were going to work with her.
I really wish there could be more recourse against dishonest sellers. So many of them just prey on uneducated people who could end up killed because of their lies. It's horrible.
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