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post #11 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 01:59 AM
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From my own experience...
I pushed my green horse to far, to fast. I asked her to flex to the left side and held steady pressure on the rein, I recall the typical warning sign as pinned ears, thats it. She immediately went up and over with me. I shook the dirt off and asked myself "what did I do to cause this" I stood there for a second, checked her out and got right back on. I changed my tactic and within 10 minutes I had her flexing perfectly to both sides.

She did it because of me, she was confused and frustrated. I put no blame on the horse... Luckily she never flipped again, I took everything slow with her from then on.

Some horses react differently from others, I do wonder if the horse in question has had a vet check thought?
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post #12 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 02:03 AM
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From my own experience...
I pushed my green horse to far, to fast. I asked her to flex to the left side and held steady pressure on the rein, I recall the typical warning sign as pinned ears, thats it. She immediately went up and over with me. I shook the dirt off and asked myself "what did I do to cause this" I stood there for a second, checked her out and got right back on. I changed my tactic and within 10 minutes I had her flexing perfectly to both sides.

She did it because of me, she was confused and frustrated. I put no blame on the horse... Luckily she never flipped again, I took everything slow with her from then on.

Some horses react differently from others, I do wonder if the horse in question has had a vet check thought?
That's what I was thinking. Perhaps a vetcheck would be useful. I'd still stay away from the horse though considering the creep factor. *Shudders* Like tinyliny said That's like buying a house that someone was murdered in.
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post #13 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 03:31 AM
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I wouldn't!

Even if I was an experienced rider for 50 yrs...heck to the no!

I agree with lacyloo...alpo....it does sound mean but I won't be risking my life like that.
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Nope. Especially if he is known to be a chronic rearer. Once off, I could deal with and see if there's a factor causing it. But IMO there are too many good horses in the world to waste your time with the bad ones. This is going to sound awful to many, particularly the 'save all horses' type kids on here... but that horse would be on a one way road to the pearly white gates if it were in my hands. Rearers are dangerous, rearers that flip, are killers. Obviously - this horse has already killed someone.
Tell your friend there are many more fish in the sea, and if she wants to buy this horse to 'play hero' or for the attention side of it... tell her she's being pathetic and overall, stupid.
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post #15 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 05:08 AM
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Nope, I wont get on anything that is known to rear.

This horse has killed someone with its problem so it isnt a minor rear either.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

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Oh and another quick point for your friend to consider - even if she is a highly experienced, confident, professional trainer (which I am very much doubting). It's all good and well to say you've 'trained' the horse 'not to rear'. But in my books, once it's been a chronic rearer, it will always revert to that habit in times of stress, panic or discomfort. Even if the horse has an issue with your contact on the bit, it should not rear - unless you are of course, giving it no other option i.e. pulling back so hard that it's chin's on it's chest, while kicking the hell out of it. Then it's got no where to go but up. Otherwise, rearing is straight out dirty. My guy has a nasty habit of jacking in front, if that jack turns vertical, he will be off my property before he can take a breath.
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post #17 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 07:51 AM
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No way would I buy it nor would I let my friend do so without saying "what are you thinking??"

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She is 16...or so you say-where are the adults in her life? Do they know this?

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Franknbeans - She is in fact 16. As I mentioned before her parents are non horsey people. I went over to her house one day(the day she mentioned the horse to me) and told her mom flat out I thought it was dangerous and tried telling her the dangers of it when my friend came in and said "Mom i've been riding for 4 yrs I can handle a horse like this. Please you know how good of a rider I am." And the worst part is her parents believe everything she says. And the worst part is she's keeping her trainer in the dark about this (I think I'll shoot him an email about it she'll be mad at me but I'd rather her be mad than dead)

(as a side note she's thinking of trying it out this week: my goal is to stop her before she does. I did however convince her to call the owner back and find out why he rears. I'll post that when I get that answer from her sometime this afternoon.)

Apparently she is not creeped out, her parents are not creeped out. I'm definately going to go over to her mom's house while she is at school and tell her about everything I think about it without any interuptions. My friend is desperate for a horse that she is just jumping on the first one's she finds. I'm going to explain to her parents about the "not all horse sellers are honest and will do anything to get rid of a horse" deal.

I just don't want her hurt.

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post #20 of 163 Old 03-27-2011, 08:55 AM
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This sounds like a spoiled child (you said her parents just do as she tells them she wants to). I've seen this type of behavior with some kids my children grew up with and it never turns out good. You told her how dangerous it was to buy this horse, your BO refused to sell her a horse because she did what she wanted to regardless of being told not to. Sometimes you just have to step back. You told her the dangers, and her parents are of no help; she will do this especially because of the warnings.

As a last resort, you could appeal to the sellers.

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