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post #51 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ82Sky View Post
i have heard of horses going over backwards as a freak accident (spooked, reared, stumbled, something like that). but a chronic rearer that has gone over is a bunch of red flags to me.
Yep, I've had stan nearly go over backwards because of an accident. He reared up due to pain from his saddle. Unfortunatly we were on slippy mud (XC course, training in the rain!) and he went up high, i was thrown (wasnt a stickable as I am now) but stan slipped with a hind leg and wavered. My instructor was 100% sure that he was going over and was shouting at me to roll away.
God only knows how he managed it but he managed to get his balance again and didnt go over but he was so close it was scarey. He was a very very powerful and well balanced horse which is probably what saved him from going over.

He scared himself that day as well.
I dont count that as a purposefuly dangerous rear, yes it ended up being dangerous because of the whole situation but he had absolutly no intention of going over backwards.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

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post #52 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 01:31 PM
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I have not read past the first page, so forgive me if anything is repeated or the issue has been resolved, but what makes her want a vicious horse if she KNOWS she has no means of training him? Assuming your friend is anything but a professional trainer, this could be the biggest mistake of her horse career. When it doesn't work out, who's going to buy a "killer horse"? A horse with this much trouble needs to be put down; that is the honest truth. It would be much, much different if she was a trainer or had a professional trainer available to work with him for a loonnnggg time. Even then, he may never be normal.

There's too many good horses in the world to waste time with dangerous head cases. Sounds horrible, but that's the reality of it.

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And I do not understand why one would have to buy this horse anyway? I would think the current owners would be giving it away.
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post #54 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 01:45 PM
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iridehorses- said "As a last resort, you could appeal to the sellers."

And i agree with him. If she won't listen nor her parents then got to the owner and tell them she's not good enough to even try riding a rearing horse. Hopefully the trainer can talk her out of it. And if the owner won't listen then tell him/her if she can live with the thought of a 16 year old girl dieing from a horse that i told you she couldn't handle.

How much are they wanting for this horse?
What kind is it?

I want to know more about the horse and if you can get pictures. I want know everything you know about it from head to hoof. Also it's pedigree. That is if you can get any of this.

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post #55 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 01:48 PM
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Some folks just have to piss on that electric fence themselves before they learn it's hot.
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I'd take the horse as a pasture pet if I could, just to keep it from death. I do not think the horse wanted to kill the rider, it just wanted him/her off. Not saying it's appropriate for it to rear though. I'm not the type that's like behave or die. Some horses don't like to be ridden, and I feel that it should've been left alone in the first place if it reared up so many times. I would not ride this horse for anything, but I wouldn't kill it immediately either. I'd at least attempt to find someone who'd keep it as a pasture pet before I put it down, cause sounds to me the only time it's really dangerous is if you ride it.
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post #57 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 02:16 PM
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Doesn't tie-down expose to help with a horses rearing problem.

They should of tried that instead of letting it get worse.

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Originally Posted by equiniphile View Post
Mind if I steal this for my sig?
LOL, saw that in another thread and got a good chuckle out of it.
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Okay so as I mentioned earlier I had emailed her trainer yesterday...here was his response and I am VERY happy with it.

I starr-ed out the names of my friend and her family.

Cassie, I cannot thank you enough for letting me in on this detail that ****** has been keeping from me. I have told her countless times that I will lease out any of my lesson horses to her for half the price of a full lease but with all of the perks of a full lease. The fact that she is trying to pick out a dangerous horse is shocking because she knows the risks and she knows how much I voice safety to all of the riders in the barn, no matter how experienced.

I can assure you I will and would not allow this horse to step foot on my property as I will not have a chronic rearer in my barn. It is a serious danger to her as well as a danger to me, my staff, and the other boarders of my barn. Again I cannot believe she would even consider this without consulting me first. I hope she wasnít planning on lying about the horse to get me to allow him to be boarded here, but from what you have described to me I have no doubt thatís what she was planning on doing.

I was wondering how ******** (her mom) was considering this until I read the part where ****** intercepted your warning towards her mother and claimed she had enough experience to deal with it. I will definitely consult with ******** on Tuesday after ******ís lesson. I will also have a serious conversation with ****** about this situation. She does not have nearly enough experience to deal with this sort of thing and the fact that she believes she does is a little concerning for me.

If she goes behind my back and buys this horse she will be suspended from my lesson program until further notice and she will not be allowed to bring the horse here or to any of the shows hosted by our show circuit. Eventually she will have to realize her mistake because I know most of the farms in the area will not allow a rearer in their barn.

Unfortunately, in order to address this issue to her I will have to bring up the horse and everything youíve told me about it. Since you seem to be the only person who is concerned about this issue she will most definitely find out it was you who warned me. I am not one to cause problems with friendships but as you understand, being a rider and horse owner yourself, safety is the number one concern. Again I am pretty sure you understand this.

Thank you again for warning me, and I will email you after ******ís lesson on Tuesday to let you know how everything went. I am sure you are prepared for a storm to come if it does. And please if she threatens you in any way about this issue DO NOT HESITATE to call me at (***) ***-**** and voice your concerns as I will not tolerate that behavior and she will be addressed as soon as possible. Also do not be hesitant to email or call me if you find out that she is seriously thinking about going through with the buy even after I talk with her and her parents.

Again I cannot thank you enough for this warning.

Take care,
***** *********
****** ** ***** Farm

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post #60 of 163 Old 03-28-2011, 04:03 PM
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Wow, that's excellent that the BO is so willing to help. Good luck!
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