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    12-28-2011, 12:32 AM
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Foal
Question young mare rides better in a halter than a bridle?

okay, so my 4yo mare has been through all sorts of learning experiences with me. I have adjusted many things to accommodate her particular liking when it comes to bits, saddles, etc. I found that in a o ring snaffle she tries to steam roll through it and makes it aware she isn't scared of the pressure it applies. So on to other bits I went. I went to a tom thumb, a snaffle with a copper roller and a shank, curb with low port and a few straight bars. She worked best with the copper roller. Once I had her neck reining, that was the bit of choice.

We have a pretty solid relationship now, so I opted for something new. Firstly I wanna say she was never barebacked but a handleful of times by yours truly. She never acted up when I attempted it but you could see she was uneasy with the idea for a while. (no back problems) I eventually got her used to that by sporadically doing it and making the experience pleasurable by taking her to places where the food was enjoyable lol. So we got through that. One day I decided i'd see if she'd respond well with just a halter. It was pretty dumb since she has problems with stopping with the bit, well not really problems stopping, but the transition is too long. She is also a speed demon. Well I did it, and found that she was actually quite delightful to ride this way. So i've made it a bit of a routine to let her have that freedom pretty regularly. The distance we've rode this way and the terrain have gotten more advanced and we are really excelling.

my main question is:

Why is it that she responds so well in a halter? I guess that that is just the pressure method that works best with her. But she's a contestor... we can't ride in a hackamore. Does her response to being bitless reveal anything about her other than what I have said? Just curious because I found this to be a bit odd lol. I mean her woahs are spot on when she has a halter on?! With almost no pressure needed to be applied.

Idk I find it just odd!
     
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    12-28-2011, 12:39 AM
  #2
Trained
Have you checked her teeth?

Assuming teeth are not the problem, maybe she just wants to be a bitless horse! You could try out some differant bitless options and see if she likes any of them.
     
    12-28-2011, 12:44 AM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
Have you checked her teeth?

Assuming teeth are not the problem, maybe she just wants to be a bitless horse! You could try out some differant bitless options and see if she likes any of them.
nope! No teeth problems! And yes maybe she does! But if she wants to continue running those barrels and poles its a no no! Thanks for the feedback!
     
    12-28-2011, 12:50 AM
  #4
Banned
She's probably afraid of the pain of the bit, and that's why she braces to escape it. Using a halter allows her to focus on the cues you are giving without fretting about repercussions.
     
    12-28-2011, 01:01 AM
  #5
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
She's probably afraid of the pain of the bit, and that's why she braces to escape it. Using a halter allows her to focus on the cues you are giving without fretting about repercussions.

Is that a cause of something I have done? And how do I get her out of that mindset? I am very light on her mouth and she only acts up on certain lesser harsh bits, almost seems that it is because she can get away with it. Very very strong jaws this lady has. She isn't horrible with the bit by any means, but there is a difference from halter to bridle. Thank you btw (:
     
    12-28-2011, 01:05 AM
  #6
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Are you the only one who has ever ridden her? If you have soft hands, I wouldn't blame yourself. Could also be that she has a mouth conformation that does not accomodate a bt or that she is just one of those rare horses that never takes the to bit at all. If she works well in the halter, and continues to do so, let her stay in it....
     
    12-28-2011, 01:13 AM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Are you the only one who has ever ridden her? If you have soft hands, I wouldn't blame yourself. Could also be that she has a mouth conformation that does not accomodate a bt or that she is just one of those rare horses that never takes the to bit at all. If she works well in the halter, and continues to do so, let her stay in it....

Yes besides the man who broke her to accept a rider and tack. She wasn't broke to really ride till I purchased her. But I guess to the extent the bit was used on her mouth I do not know. Yes I plan to ride her moreso like this now that i've discovered it. She's real good with legs cues, took to them quite easily. And neck reins pretty good. So really if were not competing and its just recreational/training I see no need to put a bit back into her mouth this season.

One thing that I did notice though is at the very beginning of each ride in the halter she throws her head up once, and periodically a little snort. She NEVER did/does that in a bridle but I becomes almost routine? This is just a nylon bridle, no pressure points, and its properly placed.

Sorry if i'm bugging you with all my questions!
     
    12-28-2011, 03:38 PM
  #8
Foal
I have a senior quarter horse that exhibits all of these tendencies as well. I have only trail ridden so I don't have to worry about show qualifications. However, I have always been bothered by this behavior. At 25 years old, she is still very much full of herself and ready to be "bad" if I am not paying attention. I feel like I have failed somehow because I don't use a bit, but she is really a great ride other than my feelings about this. Good leg cues, excellent reining, and good stops; just doesn't like a bit. I am following this thread because I would like confirmation that I haven't created this situation as a "problem."

I do know that the trainer that "started" this horse used many techniques that I consider inhumane or simply poor horsemanship including withholding food and being tied for extended periods. I have always thought that this problem was something he created.

I would like to be able to use a bit like "normal" people but gave up with that dream long ago. I'd love to hear more about this problem, as outline by the OP.
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    12-28-2011, 07:59 PM
  #9
Trained
Why wouldn't he be able to stay bitless for barrels and poles? I've ran horses in halters before at home and switch to a little S hackamore to show in. Some horses can do it.
     
    12-28-2011, 10:54 PM
  #10
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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
Why wouldn't he be able to stay bitless for barrels and poles? I've ran horses in halters before at home and switch to a little S hackamore to show in. Some horses can do it.
i have always been told that Harrison County does not let you contest in hackamores. Why? I HAVE NO IDEA. They're a bit weird down here in the sticks. Just like I can't use a o ring snaffle because next fair she will be 5. The rules are sketchy but i'm going to further look into it, I would greatly prefer she do it in a hackamore since she seems to respond better this way. Maybe they can make an exception! Thanks everyone!
     

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