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    03-08-2013, 11:40 PM
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hat bending?

I have an old resistol hat that I've had for years-- its a western pleasure hat that I bought back in 00' for halter, and western pleasure showing.
Over the years its lost its shape.. kinda-- it has some dings and mis-bends..

Anywho..

I've seen the hat bender-majigger-machine and I know they can custom bend any hat using steam? I tried to use the steam from the stove to re-bend my hat, but it just bent back to the mis-bends. :(

Is there a special technique to hat bending?

Is it possible to fix (re-bend) an old hat?

Can I re-bend my hat at home?

Can I get the dents/dings out with out re-bending the whole hat?
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    03-09-2013, 12:02 AM
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I had an old metal teapot with a rubber stopper with a small metal tube ran through it to concentrate the steam. Just doing it over a pot of boiling water doesn't work very well. Hat starch will help it hold the shape you put into it. Bickmore I think makes a pump spray bottle of hat starch. Also the quality of our hat will determine its ability to hold the shape. Make sure when steaming your hat you don't over do it to the point where it actually gets soaked.

If you plan to show in the hat I would suggest taking it to an actual hat maker and have them shape it. Most folks that attempt to shape hats in western retail stores do a horrible job.
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    03-09-2013, 12:07 AM
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Can I get the dents/dings out with out re-bending the whole hat?
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Husband said to tell you, yes, apply bondo and sand, lol. Sorry, we have been working on our horse trailer and well, I guess he has bondo on his mind.
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    03-09-2013, 12:54 AM
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I had an old metal teapot with a rubber stopper with a small metal tube ran through it to concentrate the steam. Just doing it over a pot of boiling water doesn't work very well. Hat starch will help it hold the shape you put into it. Bickmore I think makes a pump spray bottle of hat starch. Also the quality of our hat will determine its ability to hold the shape. Make sure when steaming your hat you don't over do it to the point where it actually gets soaked.

If you plan to show in the hat I would suggest taking it to an actual hat maker and have them shape it. Most folks that attempt to shape hats in western retail stores do a horrible job.
It has a man on a bronc on the top inside with "RESISTOL " on it in gold.. it has a leather band inside says RESISTOL "Self-conforming " and made in Texas USA.

Kinda feels like there is wire in the brim? It bends easily, and keeps the bend you make in it. I don't know if that's a good thing or not?

Can a hat maker clean my hat? Its not filthy just dingy from hanging on the wall for years, lol.

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Husband said to tell you, yes, apply bondo and sand, lol. Sorry, we have been working on our horse trailer and well, I guess he has bondo on his mind.
Haha!! I might got some at the shop!
Now, do I wet, or dry sand?
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    03-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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The " self conforming" actually doesn't have anything to do with the hat but rather the leather sweat band on the inside. If it has wire in the brim I would be inclined to think it is a low quality hat, the wire helps the hat retain its shape. A higher quality will holds its shape much better. You can feel the difference in the felt between high quality and low quality.
In the sweat band is there anything printed like "2X" or "5X" etc.?
Hat makers use X's to display the quality of the hat. It has to do with the amount of rabbit fur blended with Beaver in the felt. (Beaver is not the only fur used, but the most common)The more X's the higher quality.(less rabbit, more beaver) But keep in mind that there is no industry standard. For example a 100X hat in one brand still may not be the quality of anothers 100X.
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    03-09-2013, 01:13 PM
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You need to start with just an area and try to shape and hold it as it cools. Watch out for getting steam burns. Start at the crown and gradually work your way to the brim then shape the brim. It's best if someone with a steam head does the work as it can be adjusted to your head size. Sometimes with home steaming a little shrinkage takes place and the hat can wind up too tight.
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    03-09-2013, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
The " self conforming" actually doesn't have anything to do with the hat but rather the leather sweat band on the inside. If it has wire in the brim I would be inclined to think it is a low quality hat, the wire helps the hat retain its shape. A higher quality will holds its shape much better. You can feel the difference in the felt between high quality and low quality.
In the sweat band is there anything printed like "2X" or "5X" etc.?
Hat makers use X's to display the quality of the hat. It has to do with the amount of rabbit fur blended with Beaver in the felt. (Beaver is not the only fur used, but the most common)The more X's the higher quality.(less rabbit, more beaver) But keep in mind that there is no industry standard. For example a 100X hat in one brand still may not be the quality of anothers 100X.
Its not a felt hat, its straw, lol. "xxxx8" is what it says.. I used to hang it by a hook, and it's scratched off a little, but I'm pretty sure that's it.. it also has an upsidedown bow in the back.. to mark it, lol. I figured only straw hats had leather "Self-conforming" bands? I had no idea 'crush proof' ones did? Can you show w/p with a felt hat?

Thanks for the info. :)
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    03-09-2013, 07:17 PM
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Its not a felt hat, its straw, lol. "xxxx8" is what it says.. I used to hang it by a hook, and it's scratched off a little, but I'm pretty sure that's it.. it also has an upsidedown bow in the back.. to mark it, lol. I figured only straw hats had leather "Self-conforming" bands? I had no idea 'crush proof' ones did? Can you show w/p with a felt hat?

Thanks for the info. :)
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Oh! Haha! I assumed it was felt because you were showing!
I have palm leaf straw hats and I actually dunk them in a tub off warm water to shape them. Sorry I thought you were talking about felt hats. I don't like the Bangora straw ones, they remind of plastic..LOL! Not sure if you can shape the Bangoras by dunking them or if your supposed to steam them.
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    03-09-2013, 07:57 PM
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Alot of times with the bangora or shantung straw hats once there is a crease in it , it is quite often there to stay. My straw hats are usually only good for one summer then done unless its a palm leaf hat. They are much more resilient than the others.
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    03-09-2013, 09:40 PM
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Oh! Haha! I assumed it was felt because you were showing!
I have palm leaf straw hats and I actually dunk them in a tub off warm water to shape them. Sorry I thought you were talking about felt hats. I don't like the Bangora straw ones, they remind of plastic..LOL! Not sure if you can shape the Bangoras by dunking them or if your supposed to steam them.
Lol, I should have been more specific.. my fault. :O
How can I tell what type of straw my hat is made from? I know its water proof, I've warn it in the rain a few times, and it kept its shape, lol.
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