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post #1 of 12 Old 07-12-2010, 04:50 PM Thread Starter
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Question How to get the prefect haunch turn?

I have been doing showmanship for while, and I was wondering how do you get your horse to do that perfect, smooth, brisk haunch turn. Currently I walk towards my horse and pull him forward if he is going to take a step out backwards, or back if he's going to take a step forward. He does pretty well, just doesn't move away like I would like him to. Does anyone have any tips? Thanks
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Shoulder smacks. You need to teach your horse that the minute you step into his bubble HE IS TO MOVE. This holds true for the back, too. My horse knows that if I'm facing his neck he is to stand still, but the minute I step toward him he better move or he'll get in trouble. At first he would only hold the pivot for a step or two, but gradually he learned to keep spinning for as long as I kept walking. And I'm not inferring that I beat my horse (or that you should <ggg>) I just demand respect. I move, he moves. Period.

Make sure he keeps his body straight. If you ever step up to bigger competition a horse that arches his head away from you is marked down, so don't let your horse get into that bad habit. Again, this is true for the back.

We consistently win this event (at the regional AQHA level...top tens at the national level) so if you need more tips let me know. SMS is my FAV event. :)

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Thanks,
Do you have any tips for preventing him from stepping out of the haunch turn?
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Lol. That's too funny. I posted way more than just "patience". Lemme see if I can re-paste.

Patience, LOL. Although many times it's pilot error. Most horses will take a step if they're pulled off balance. A lot of newbies won't walk a perfect circle during a pivot. They walk an egg. This results in a horse that "pulls a foot" as a way of keeping its balance. Sounds like you're on top of things though, so just be patient. Go slow at first. Work on action-reaction stuff at the same time. It'll come together.

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It took me a month to get my gelding to where he is now, and I don't even do showmanship! I was just teaching him for trail class with the pivot box.

Anyway, I started off by taking a thick stick and wrapping a cloth over the tip so it wasn't pokey. Then I would pull my horse's head kind of towards me so gravity took over and he automatically took a step with his front legs to the side. At the same time I did that, I prodded him behind the elbow with the stick. If he moved the back foot out of place, I stopped, quickly led him forward a step so he put the hoof back in place, and as soon as that hoof was in place, I patted and praised him.

I eventually replaced my hand with the stick, and then transferred it to the saddle. When on the ground, I don't have to put my hand under my elbow anymore, I just walk sideways in the circle and he'll do a full pivot.
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I'm so glad someone posted this because I have the same problem with my appy! I can make him back really well and move his haunches when I go near them but his shoulder has always been a problem. I guess I just do what you do and what I did with everything else...demand respect forcefully until just moving will work ;D
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Yup. That's what you've got to do. We've spent hours--and I do mean HOURS--working on the action/reaction stuff. I'll move to the "back" position (in front of him, and yet slightly to the side of my horse's head) and just stand there. Sometimes I'll take that first step and my horse knows to MOVE. NOW! But if all I do is face his rearend, he knows to just stand there. I think that's why I love showmanship. ANYONE can do it. And you can get really good at it, too, if you put the time into it.

Have fun!

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It took me a month to get my gelding to where he is now, and I don't even do showmanship! I was just teaching him for trail class with the pivot box.

Anyway, I started off by taking a thick stick and wrapping a cloth over the tip so it wasn't pokey. Then I would pull my horse's head kind of towards me so gravity took over and he automatically took a step with his front legs to the side. At the same time I did that, I prodded him behind the elbow with the stick. If he moved the back foot out of place, I stopped, quickly led him forward a step so he put the hoof back in place, and as soon as that hoof was in place, I patted and praised him.

I eventually replaced my hand with the stick, and then transferred it to the saddle. When on the ground, I don't have to put my hand under my elbow anymore, I just walk sideways in the circle and he'll do a full pivot.
Lol oops typo! I meant "his" elbow, not mine. Hehe. Also, I didn't exactly clariyfy in the first paragraph....when I pulled his head towards mine, I was standing next to his shoulder, facing forward.
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wow I'm glad someone posted this as well not that I do showmanship I'm trying to teach Buzz it to help with muscle and theres no problem with him learning something else to improve his skills :)
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