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    01-07-2011, 05:22 PM
  #1
Green Broke
New to showing! Help please!

Okay. So I am going to a show on the 16th of this month. A 9 days away! Anyways it came up fast and so I am going to be practicing.

Here are the classes I am doing.Can I have help with these and understanding what they are about since I am new.


Halter Mares,Open

In-Hand Trail Open

English Pleasure W/T Open 19-39
English Pleasure W/T 1st Yr. Green Horse
English Pleasure W/T Novice rider

(what is the difference between english pleasure W/T classes and just English Pleasure Open? Do you canter then?)

English Equitation(need help knowing what this is about...would lik to give it a go)

English Trail,Open
trail-19-39
1st year green horse
and trail novice rider.

Also for halter should I clip her whiskers and shave her ears or leave them? She is a black and white paint with white legs and striped feet..one foot is solid white..should I use clear polish or black? Her tail is medium length.Do I have to bang it? Also the vet shaved her leg in one part cause she hurt it..the hair ist still growing back..does this matter? It's cold outside and I have no heated water...to bathe or not to bathe?
     
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    01-07-2011, 05:24 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Oh and it says all horses 6 and over must be showin in a shank bit...well i'm doing english....so I use a snaffle right?
     
    01-07-2011, 08:53 PM
  #3
Started
You're right about the difference between English Pleasure W/T and EP Open - open will judge you at the canter unless specified otherwise. Generally, open just means that any horse of any gender, size, or breed can compete under any rider as long as the correct tack is used - in this case, anything under the "English" umbrella.

Equitation classes primarily judge the rider, his/her position and ability to control the horse with finesse. Pleasure classes, in contrast, primarily judge the horse, his/her way of going and manners.

As far as how to prepare for halter classes, I do clip the muzzle whiskers (I don't like to, and let them grow out otherwise, but most judges will dock points for long whiskers in the ring, IME) but not the long whiskers around the eyes. For the ears, I gently fold the ear closed and clip away the fuzzies that stick out. That cleans things up nicely, but saves some fly protection and functionality.

For her feet, use whatever color polish you want - clear flatters some horses more than black, and vice versa. I personally prefer clear on most horses. The thing to keep in mind with your paint mare is that a shiny black hoof on a white leg will probably create the illusion that that foot is very different from the others - not something that you want in halter. Experiment a bit and find out what looks most pleasing to your eye.

I wouldn't bang her tail if it's just medium length unless it's really scraggly looking around the end. Again, it's a judgement call - whatever flatters her best. For example, if her hocks aren't her best conformational feature, banging her tail at that length might draw attention to a less-than-perfect feature. Halter is all about maximizing the positive and minimizing the negative.

If the vet shaved some hair away, there isn't much you can do about it. Most judges are understanding about little things like that - horses will injure themselves and leave marks, it's just a fact of life. I wouldn't worry about it affecting her placing in halter.

I wouldn't bathe her if it's cold out. A thorough brushing will likely be fine. If she does have staining on her white markings, you can try Cowboy Magic Green Spot Remover. It's pricey, but it does help take out the stains without soap and water. If you like, you can finish her off with something like ShowSheen, but be careful about spraying that where the saddle goes - it's slick stuff.

Have fun at your show, and do post pics if you can!!
     
    01-07-2011, 09:23 PM
  #4
Showing
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Originally Posted by Gidget    
Okay. So I am going to a show on the 16th of this month. A 9 days away! Anyways it came up fast and so I am going to be practicing.

Here are the classes I am doing.Can I have help with these and understanding what they are about since I am new.


Halter Mares,Open

In-Hand Trail Open

English Pleasure W/T Open 19-39
English Pleasure W/T 1st Yr. Green Horse
English Pleasure W/T Novice rider

(what is the difference between english pleasure W/T classes and just English Pleasure Open? Do you canter then?)

No, they're both W/T classes. "Open" means that anyone can enter, from novice to professional. 1st year green horse means that the horse must be in its first year of showing. Novice rider means you must be a novice to enter.

English Equitation(need help knowing what this is about...would lik to give it a go)
Judges your equitation, I.e. Your position and being an effective rider, more than judging the horse.

English Trail,Open
trail-19-39
1st year green horse
and trail novice rider.

Also for halter should I clip her whiskers and shave her ears or leave them? She is a black and white paint with white legs and striped feet..one foot is solid white..should I use clear polish or black? Her tail is medium length.Do I have to bang it? Also the vet shaved her leg in one part cause she hurt it..the hair ist still growing back..does this matter? It's cold outside and I have no heated water...to bathe or not to bathe?
Responses to the first couple of questions above in blue.

Re: turnout - unless your horse has solid black feet, black polish is a huge no-no. Use clear. Do not bathe unless you have the facilities to keep her warm. How "big" is this show? If it's a schooling/lower show, then don't shave her at all. Do not shave her ears, unless you want to risk frostbite if she lives outside.
     
    01-08-2011, 12:54 AM
  #5
Green Broke
Thank you guys!

I did fold her ears tonight and clipped the fuzzies. I also cleaned up her bridle path. Her feet are gettin done the day before as that is when he can come out the earliest. I have some clear polish..I will use that as she does have white legs..I will use black just at home for fun.

This is just a local show.. a lot of people do compete though and I want to try and do my best and bring out the best in my horse. With equitation class...I have not cantered in an english saddle all but two times...do they ask to canter?If so I suppose I will work on that.

What is working english pleasure?

I plan on doing 6 classes unless I try to wing the canter.
     
    01-08-2011, 12:54 AM
  #6
Green Broke
Oh and one more thing..I have loped in a western saddle but it feels different in an english and a wee bit nervous.
     
    01-08-2011, 01:46 AM
  #7
Yearling
If you're at all nervous, don't enter a canter class. You'll be even MORE nervous at the show, that will translate to your horse, and that will end badly.

For most low level halter classes, they judge more toward turnout than conformation. Meaning that they care more about looks than type. This makes it more fair if it's not a model class. So normally you'd want to be all clipped and polished, but with winter, it's a judgement call. Since we have only black-hooved horses, we use black spraypaint instead of polish.. less sticky.

PS. One thing I learned from my trainer, who showed a horse with one one white sock-- if 1 foot looks different from the rest, and attention is brought to it, it can sometimes appear as if the horse is limping or short-striding on the different leg.
     
    01-08-2011, 01:52 AM
  #8
Green Broke
So should I pait them all black..cause her all white hoof looks funny compared to the rest.
     
    01-08-2011, 02:37 PM
  #9
Showing
No, don't paint them all black. White legs have white or striped hooves, very rarely do white legs have black feet - it will look even weirder to have black feet on a horse that should have white or striped feet. If it's a local show, you really don't have to put polish on at all - I only polish for bigger shows.
Don't enter a canter class if you haven't practiced at home - that's asking for trouble at worst, and confidence issues at best.
Braid, don't clip unless you have the resources to care for a clipped horse.
     
    01-09-2011, 02:22 AM
  #10
Yearling
As long as they are clean, you should be fine.

Do you have all your clothing? You'll need your jacket, breeches, boots, etc.
     

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