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    04-22-2011, 11:24 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Turns on the hindquarters

We are doing a 4-H horse show and need to start preparing for showmanship. We have a couple new horses and they are having trouble with pivoting on the hind quarters. How would you all suggest going about this? How would you get the horse to have nice turns without moving the hindquarters?
     
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    04-23-2011, 10:46 PM
  #2
Weanling
First it has a lot to do with the sholders. You have to get the sholder moving before the head and neck. I usaly take the end of a lead rope and swing it at the sholder to ask them to move thier sholder. Do not move before they move first. Make sure you are keeping corect body form cause that will come into play as you refine your horse. As they learn to move off their sholder they will hold thier pivot leg better wicht is the left back when you are facing the horse. Your boddy will also keep your horse in the pivot wich I am not sure how to wright that with out visual guidence besides keep your sholders paralle with tthe horses neck.
     
    04-28-2011, 03:53 PM
  #3
Foal
(left side of neck) Ask him to move his shoulder over. You can use the end of a lead rope, a small crop, or even your hand to help as an aid. Give him little taps or suggest he move his shoulder over. Don't go pushing on him or anything like that, some horses just get use to that and never learn.
You shouldnt move until your horses move. Don't worry about if his back right leg is moving or not. Just focus on getting his shoulder to move. Once you do this, repeat over and over until you can stop walking, turn towards his neck, and walk towards him and he moves over. After he has that down, then work with keeping his foot in place.
     
    04-29-2011, 10:33 PM
  #4
Showing
I like to teach the horse to rock back to lighten it's shoulders. Place two fingers of your left hand between the jaw bone and nostril and the fingers of your right hand about in the middle of the big muscle above his elbow. You will be facing the horse's neck. Lightly press both sets of fingers. If no response, lightly tap the two fingers on your left hand until he starts to move his head away. Step toward him while tapping and pressing his shoulder. He may just swing his head away to start, but it's a start.
     
    05-22-2011, 04:18 AM
  #5
Foal
This is how I taught my mare to turn on her hindquarters on the ground:

First, I'd wrap the lead rope around her neck to keep it from getting in the way. Standing on her left side, I'd have a handy stick in my right hand positioned at the middle of her neck and the rope loosely in my left hand at her jaw. Then I'd tap the air, creating pressure with rhythm. If she didn't move, then I'd tap her softly, the get gradually harder and harder until she moved her left front over and across her right. If she walked forward, I'd back her up hard then start all over. If she backed up, then I'd just keep applying the pressure until she took the right step. Once she stepped, I'd rub her to a stop, letting her know she did it right. Once you get one step down, then ask for more, but be sure they can do it well with just one first. My mistake was not being patient enough and rushing her, I think. But we got the point where all I had to do was tap the air at her neck and she'd turn nicely.

Then I'd use constant pressure on her cheek and right behind her front leg. I'd press very soft, then harder and harder until she took the correct step. Then rub her to a stop. Then you can translate that hand pressure at her girth to your foot pressure when you ride.

Anyway, that's how I taught her.
     
    06-02-2011, 04:47 PM
  #6
Foal
First off, make sure you do things slow, so your horse really understands. I trained my 2 year old this year at school and at the end of 16 weeks, we were scoring 90s on our showmanship patterns - this was a huge improvement from when we started, when we started, she didn't know how to lead at all and was a run-away. In the process of teaching her this, I never used a chain, a rope, handy-stick, or whip; Just a rope halter and a lead rope.
When I taught her to turn-around/pivot, I did things one step at a time. Stand facing your horse, lift your hand up and slightly towards your horses nose - this will help your horse have forward motion, to lift his shoulders, and cross her legs over instead of behind. Your horse should cross over when you step forward, if not, simply ask your horse to move his shoulder over by tapping your hand on his shoulder, if he still doesn't respond, you may need to get more agressive. Once he takes a step forward and across, let him rest. Let him know that that was what you wanted. Keep this up and slowly start asking for more steps. Eventually, you will have a full turn around.

Hope this helps. Just remember, the rest/reward is key.
     
    06-08-2011, 08:35 AM
  #7
Weanling
Here is a little video for you to see about teaching your horse to pivot for showmanship. |They are using a young horse that is green so it may be helpful since you said your horses are new. Good Luck with the new horses.

     

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