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        09-01-2009, 12:54 PM
      #1
    Green Broke
    Angry Another hunter question

    So yesterday I mentioned to a woman who trains hunters that my horse and I are going to get into hunters this winter for fun and to see if we would like it (we are eventers right now but since we can’t do that in the winter we thought this would be a fun way to keep showing through the winter!)

    She asked me if I was going to do schooling shows or rated shows, and I said “Well schooling to start since I know nothing about hunters” and she was like “oh ok good, then you’ll be fine, now if you were to say rated shows I’d probably say she’s not really the horse to do those, but…”

    So I was like “Well, what about her wouldn’t make her a good hunter?” And all she would say is that she wasn’t bred to be a hunter! Now, I understand that there are “hunter” looking horses who would do better traditionally than others, but I was a little irritated by her comment! I don’t think she meant it to be mean, but it just came off a little snooty to me, which kinda backs up all of the stereotypes of the hunter world and how political and snobby it is! Now, I didn’t believe that until I talked to this girl, because I have friends who are hunters and they are the polar OPPOSITE of snobby! But geez, the way this trainer was talking it kinda made me understand where that might have come from

    So, my question is…for all you hunters out there…what is it about my horse that wouldn’t make her a "good hunter"? Is it her color, her conformation, etc??? Just curious what she might have meant by her comment!!
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        09-01-2009, 01:29 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    Tha main thing that I see is that she doesnt pull her knees up, she is a little sloppy in the front end.

    I do believe that every horse can do every sport, some are better then others sure, but every horse can do it. I think little Sandie would so an AWESOME job in hunters with you. Some judges might not like you or your girl, but oh well, its about having fun. I think that you should just hold your head high and show them how its done! Sandie and you are a good team and you guys are going to have a lot of fun. :]

    Good luck!
         
        09-01-2009, 02:07 PM
      #3
    Started
    Any horse/pony can do hunters. Sandy has a nice jump (could be a bit more rounded, but the jumps are easy for her) From pictures I've seen, she has nice knees and is willing. Does she do flyng lead changes? If not, you might want to work on those. She might not win the hack, but if you get her relaxed and steady (which she seems to be) she'll do fine. Her color wil make her stand out without being blaringly obvious.

    Basically IMHO, no, she will never be an 'AA' hunter. But at scooling, 'B' and even 'A' shows she will do just fine. Not the winner of every class, but I bet she will be in the ribbons for even the larger classes.

    Oh, and OT but she reminds me SO much of a buckskin paint pony at our barn, they could almost be twins, lol. This pony has the same build and everything! This pony does great in o/f classes (even beats my horse in baby greens at times).
         
        09-01-2009, 02:54 PM
      #4
    Yearling
    I agree with above. o.o
         
        09-01-2009, 02:56 PM
      #5
    Green Broke
    Thanks for the feedback!

    Eventerwannabe, I was referring more to her look than to her jumping style, sorry to confuse! She and I both just started learning to jump about 4 months ago, so we have a long way to go there! I kinda meant more stuff that cannot be trained into her, that's what the trainer was telling me. I can train this horse most anything, but she was saying that even if she was top trained, she just doesn't have the breeding and "look" of a good hunter!

    1dog3cats, she can't do flying lead changes yet, she's far from it! She was green broke when I got her 10 months ago so she's come a long way and still has a long way to go! I know that this year we probably won't place since we're starting from the ground up and have a lot to learn, esp. Since we've only been doing dressage and eventing, so it's the other side of the road for us in a way and it'll be a lot of new stuff to learn...

    I'll bet it'll be fun though! We're at least going to give it a TRY no matter what anyone says! I just posted this because I had more of a question about why the trainer would say that even well trained, she couldn't be a very good hunter!
         
        09-01-2009, 04:43 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    Ugh- I hate it when people judge horses by their breed rather than the horse itself. I ride a TB/Mini cross and he does just as well in Hunters as horses who are the 'right' breed.
         
        09-01-2009, 05:41 PM
      #7
    Green Broke
    I got a lot of crap when I was even doing schooling hunter shows, so I can only imagine that there are going to be some breed racists at rated shows as well.

    You and Sandie are doing hunters for fun right? And for a tune-up through the winter? So just ignore them. That's what I do. Haha
         
        09-01-2009, 05:47 PM
      #8
    Started
    Man, hunters in your area must be way different then around here. Yes, it's political, but no different then the dressage ring (or any judged sport) And yes you see mostly greys, bays, and chesnuts, but there are other breeds as well, they just often don't do as well because of their build, not that the judges are breed racists,

    Personally I think hunters is a great place for young horses too. It gives them a chance to learn to canter simple courses, learn flying lead changes, keep an even pace, relax, and use the ends of the ring. Plus, it gives riders an extra incentive to ride well because it's judged
         
        09-01-2009, 09:00 PM
      #9
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by 1dog3cats17rodents    
    Man, hunters in your area must be way different then around here. Yes, it's political, but no different then the dressage ring (or any judged sport) And yes you see mostly greys, bays, and chesnuts, but there are other breeds as well, they just often don't do as well because of their build, not that the judges are breed racists,

    Personally I think hunters is a great place for young horses too. It gives them a chance to learn to canter simple courses, learn flying lead changes, keep an even pace, relax, and use the ends of the ring. Plus, it gives riders an extra incentive to ride well because it's judged
    Great post! Couldn't agree more!

    Yes, the more "traditional" hunter is going to be more TB or Warmblood-type (or Welsh if you're showing a pony) but if you have something that's a cute mover, jumps well, gets the correct distance, and has a flying change (when it's time you WILL need a lead change... ) there's a good chance you'll ribbon well. Not being "bred" to be a hunter doesn't mean anything. Very few horses I ride have been bred to be a hunter and we do ok. If I remember correctly (it's been a while since I've seen a video of Sandy) she wasn't a bad mover (not a hack winner but might ribbon, most likely would at a schooling show) and I've seen pics of her jumping well. Don't take what 1 person says personally! Go in the show ring, do your best, and prove her wrong!
         
        09-01-2009, 09:16 PM
      #10
    Trained
    I find it funny that WB's are ruling the sport of the Hunter World now - when Hunters derived from Fox Hutning, and in the world of Fox Hunting, you see breeds of all sorts and of all colors.

    Stop taking it so seriously - just go and have fun. Who cares about others, you're doing this just to keep you and Sandie in tune for the next Eventing Season.

    Ride on and enjoy yourself.
         

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