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    07-27-2012, 03:47 PM
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Weanling
Average cost to show on a barn horse?

I was wondering what the average cost should be to use a lesson horse to show? My daughter takes lessons at an Arab barn and during the show season she shows on her lesson horse (there are usually 2 other riders who use the same horse in other classes). I know that there are so many costs and fees that go into showing like trailering/gas, getting the horse ready, borrowing their tack, and then all the show fees. However, I have been told that what we are paying is way more then any other barn charges but because this we have only been their for a year and we have only done one show so far, I am not sure.

Can anyone give me an average of what they pay or think one should pay?
     
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    07-27-2012, 03:59 PM
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Trained
It's going to vary by level of training of the horse and the show and the area you're in. What are you being charged, what does it include and what are you expected to pay for?

Things that I think you should anticipate paying for:
- not all barns will allow you to show a horse that you are not leasing so, lease fees
- associated horse care costs of leasing
- entry fees
- all grounds fees (stall, bedding, etc)
- trailering to and from ($1-2 per mile)
- coaching for the day of
- may have to rent tack or buy your own
- show clothes

At my last barn, you could expect to pay at least $100 to go schooling off site with the coach using your own horse and tack. It was more often around $150 and it was for at most an hour of riding.
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    07-28-2012, 09:59 AM
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Weanling
My daughter showed the school horses before we started leasing and finally owned our own horse.

Horse rental for day: $40
Trailer ride within 25 miles of barn: $25
Add $1 for every mile over 25, max 75 miles.
Office fee: $10-$12
Open Show entry: $8 per class or $50 for all day
Breed show entry: $12 per class or $80 for all day
Both Open and Breed classes all day: $100
Stall rental (optional): $15-$20 per day
Shavings for stall: $9 per bag (4 bags needed to cover stall floor)
Trainer Fee: $40 per day
Tack stall fee (usually split between everyone showing with your barn): $5-$8 per day

This is just a list of what is paid to the show office and barn. It does not include tack, grooming/bathing supplies, show clothes, feed, hay (I buy a bale and bring it with us). There are lots of "one time" expenses just to get ready to show. Kitten has specific show boots, saddle pads, helmets, etc just for showing.

On average, I budget $250-$300 for "away" shows that include a night at the hotel. For local shows, we just show out of our trailer and I average $150-$200.

We're in North Texas and show in open, AQHA and 4H shows...usually within 75 miles of home. These are mostly rail classes (performance halter, western showmanship, western pleasure, walk/trot/lope, English equitation, hunter under saddle, trail).

Hope this helps!
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    07-28-2012, 10:04 AM
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Weanling
I also want to note that we were never expected to share our horse at a show. I would have found that very stressful! Once the horse arrived at the show, he was turned over to the care of our trainer and my daughter.

If you do have to share a horse, I would expect the fees to be shared equally between all riders (with the exception of the trainer's fees).
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    07-28-2012, 10:37 AM
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Weanling
HorseMom, thank you. That is about how much my friends have said. The highest quote I got was $500. Let's just say what we are paying is A LOT more then that and I am starting to wonder why? (plus that does not include what I ave to budget for hotel)
I don't want to move barns because I really love her trainer and the best thing is my son is best friends with their son so he is never bored, especially at shows. I would pay extra just for that! LOL But I just can't wrap my brain around why it is so much.

Oy, I have some thinking to do. Thanks again ladies.
     
    07-28-2012, 11:02 AM
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Weanling
Wow! The ONLY time I spent $500 was for a show at the Ft. Worth stockyards (Horse-O-Rama)... and that included a stall for 3 days (Friday-Sunday), two nights at a hotel, food for the humans and hay for Acey. Now for that one we had our own trailer and horse. Our total "show fees" were probably $275 of that $500.

Perhaps you should ask for an itemized breakdown of the cost. Also, I usually register my daughter myself. I download the show bill, select her classes (with her coach's input), and take care of her entry fees. Her coach will reserve the stalls (so we ensure we are all together), and I pay her our stall fees (horse and tack stall) and trainer's fee.
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    07-28-2012, 01:02 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by uflrh9y    
HorseMom, thank you. That is about how much my friends have said. The highest quote I got was $500. Let's just say what we are paying is A LOT more then that and I am starting to wonder why? (plus that does not include what I ave to budget for hotel)
I don't want to move barns because I really love her trainer and the best thing is my son is best friends with their son so he is never bored, especially at shows. I would pay extra just for that! LOL But I just can't wrap my brain around why it is so much.

Oy, I have some thinking to do. Thanks again ladies.
sometimes its as simple as the particular trainer...their experience level & credentialing..there is no official certification to be a trainer that is required but some actually carry college degrees in their field.....if you are happy & didn't mind paying the amnt before then be happy & figure you are getting what you are paying for (especially if there are other perks involved)
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    07-28-2012, 07:22 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by eclipseranch    
sometimes its as simple as the particular trainer...their experience level & credentialing..there is no official certification to be a trainer that is required but some actually carry college degrees in their field.....if you are happy & didn't mind paying the amnt before then be happy & figure you are getting what you are paying for (especially if there are other perks involved)
Yep, you are right. I think the first show I was skeptical but realized after she did so well that they obviously know what they are doing. :)
     
    07-28-2012, 07:37 PM
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Weanling
I would be interested to get a breakdown of the fees. Honestly if the show fees are in line and it's the trainer fee taking your show costs to well over $500...I don't know. Our trainer charges $40 per day and has between 3 and 5 students at every show. My daughter gets plenty of attention before her classes, lots of support and our kids always place in the ribbons.

If this is a local show and the show fees run in the high average of $200-$300...then that tells me that your trainer is charging another $200-$300 per show just for a horse (shared) and her coaching fees. I don't know of ANY trainer whose show fees are that high.

I would still ask her to break down the fees for you. It's not an unreasonable request...if she refuses, that tells you something about your trainer. Fees should be transparent. While she deserves to be paid for her time and resources, it should be fair to BOTH parties.
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    07-28-2012, 07:49 PM
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Weanling
I almost wonder if she is charging you her normal hourly rate for the show ($40-$50 per hour I assume?). If the show is 8-10 hours long...that could be between $320-$500 per show. I would object to paying that much if she is dividing her time between multiple students. Just doing the math, if she has 3 students, she's making $960-$1,500 for one day of work.
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