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post #1 of 33 Old 12-14-2011, 10:44 AM Thread Starter
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Bad judge?

Has any one here ever experienced a "bad judge" while at a horse show? Over the weekend I was at a horse show and the judge was KNITTING, not paying attention to anyone riding at all. The ring was also about 2 feet deep with sand, which was way to much. It was the worst show experience I've ever had. There was also 20+ people in the ring and it wasn't a very big ring. Have you ever had a bad show/judge experience?
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post #2 of 33 Old 12-14-2011, 10:47 AM
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What makes you think she was a bad judge?

You can knit and watch people ride. Knitting is a 'busy' activity. It doesn't take any real concentration if you've been doing it a long time, and can be very soothing.

Are you mad because you didn't place, so are trying to blame it on the judge and the ring footing?
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No. We did fine, but over all it was just a bad experience. I wasn't the only one that thought this, and was just curious if anyone else has ever had a bad show experience.
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You can knit and watch people ride. Knitting is a 'busy' activity. It doesn't take any real concentration if you've been doing it a long time, and can be very soothing.

Well maybe you feel that judges that multitask at shows is acceptable but here that is not acceptable.

A judge is not hired to knit but to judge. Fine if the judge wants to knit during breaks but when the class is ongoing they should be doing one thing only...judging.

I would not return to that show if they hired that judge again, nor would any competitor I know.
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I agree, if the judge wants to knit...she needs to stay home and knit! Unless, she was knitting every contestant their very own sweater, then maybe I'd let it slide!!
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I would think the dressage people would think it is more OK than the types of shows where the judge writes their own comments. In the dressage world the judge is not expected to even do their own writing, they just speak their comments and the scribe writes it all down for them. Knitting would not interfere at all if no writing is required.


Anyone who has shown any amount of time has had those days where they feel that the day could have gone better.

The long and short of it is, you are paying for the opinion of the judge for the day. If you do not like the opinion of that judge or the footing at that facility do not go to shows where that person is judging or at that facility.
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post #7 of 33 Old 12-14-2011, 12:21 PM
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I would think the dressage people would think it is more OK than the types of shows where the judge writes their own comments. In the dressage world the judge is not expected to even do their own writing, they just speak their comments and the scribe writes it all down for them. Knitting would not interfere at all if no writing is required.

Maybe the dressage judges where you are feel they can do a passable job judging while doing something else but where I am we have higher ethical standards.

Any judge caught doing something other than what they are paid to do can be hauled up and answer to the national committee and have their license revoked.

The scribe does the writing so the judge can put 100% of their focus on JUDGING. Not the odd pearl one or two in their lap.

You are making it out that judging in your neck of the woods is pretty second rate...

I can only assume that a judge from your area would not like the low standards you have assigned them...or maybe not ????????????
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Hmmm, I do not see where I mentioned any judges in my area doing that. Just pointing out a small fact. It seems to have gotten someone upset.
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I don't know about the dressage world but I do judge stock breed shows & 4-H, I wouldn't dare knit (or anything else for that matter) while classes were working. Seems rather unprofessional imo. I'm too busy watching horses work & taking notes (when I don't take a steward with me) to do anything else. On a break or between classes while the arena drag is being ran, that's different.

The footing, yes that stinks but it is what it is. I've ridden in and trudged through many while judging that I didn't necessarily like but everyone is in the same boat.

Sorry you had a bad show day OP. They happen. Just take it in stride and learn from it.
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Hmmm, I do not see where I mentioned any judges in my area doing that. Just pointing out a small fact. It seems to have gotten someone upset.

Nope, not upset.

But only two possibilities exist.

One make a statement based on experience or one makes a statement based of some unsubstantiated piece of information they pull out of thin air.

Your statement is based on which of the above two....fact ( meaning it is your experience) or fiction ( something you have made a wild guess at)?

It is not fair to the many dressage judges out there to have someone imply that they are not really doing their job.

Or to the competitors that have paid good money to be judged and may come to think that maybe they are not being judged as they should be.
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