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post #1 of 22 Old 05-26-2009, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Breed Raceists Judges At an OPEN SHOW!!!

I just need to vent. I was at my first show of the season this past Sunday. My horse was completely ready as well as I. We went in the halter classes and did OK. When it came to the riding classes we nailed EVERYTHING!!! But do you think I could place in any of the six riding classes NO!!! Soon to find out that the judge made it verbally known that he hates Arabs, Saddlebreds and any other english type horse, and wouldnt you know it NONE of us places. My arab is up to the class A arabian huntseat showing standards. A GOOD judge should know that different breeds ask for different headsets, movement etc. I completely respect people if the beat me and did indeed do better then me but when a girl and her horse pick up the wrong lead in front of me, break the trot and break the walk, and my ride was flawless, I do not consider that beating me fairly. Now I would completely understand IF this was a stock horse show but it was NOT!!!!!! Has anyone else had this? I feel like I wasted my money and day. Please feel free to vent, I dont mind...

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post #2 of 22 Old 05-26-2009, 10:20 AM
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Yep all the time. Ive found hacking classes to be completly biased, half the time Im pretty sure the judge makes up their mind before they even see the horses move. I was at my local show recently and saw an absolutly HOPELESS horse and rider combination place above my mare who did a reasonable (not as good as she could have, but a helluva lot better than this other horse) workout.

Im not gonna bother anymore, I've decided. From now on, I will only compete in performance sports. No more show rings full of painted ponies and judges that would be lucky to tell the different parts of a horse.
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I completely agree!! It just makes me soooooo mad that I spent soooo much money and time on training! I would love to show in the class A arab shows but I cant afford it. I am glad I am not alone!

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I wholeheartedly agree Miss Katie.

I am sorry that you had to go through this experience - but this is why I refuse to spend my money on Flat Shows, because they are political and a waste of time/money/effort.

I used to do allot of flat shows back home, and if the Judge was a TB Judge, that's all that would pin. Or a QH Judge, that's all that would pin - etc, etc, etc.

I remember I had a lovely Morab named Ribbon. We have lovely rhythm, our transitions into each gait was smooth and lovely, we never broke our canter, we were a decent package in the ring - but we never pinned.

The horse/rider teams that pinned were TB's who were not moving into their tansitions properly, running around flat, breaking their canter, on the wrong leads, wouldn't back up - but yet they kept placing.

The Judge already knows who he is placing before you even start the class.

I refuse to do any flat shows what-so-ever. It is only HT's, Dressage Comps and the Jumper ring for me :) Doesn't matter what breed you have, so long as you can answer the questions been given.
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post #5 of 22 Old 05-26-2009, 11:24 AM
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Why not simply be proud of the job you did and let it go at that?
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Way to go mls, throw the "the real reason of showing" in our faces.........

*hides in corner, rocking back and forth reciting real reason of showing while eye twitches*
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While I agree with mls, for sure, let's face it....we enter shows in the hopes that we win something. Yes it's good experience and yes it's fun but it's also nice to be recognized for all of your hard work in the form of a ribbon. So I understand the poster's frustration. It can be very disheartening when you find out how political showing can be. Trust me, I found out when a lady in my class fell off of her horse and still pinned higher than me because the judge that day was from the same barn as that lady. There was also a girl from our barn that rode a beautiful Arab stallion but placed fairly low in her classes because he's an Arab. At an all-Arab show he would have killed it, but against TB's and WB's the judges were biased.

There is nothing you can do about it, which stinks. So try to have fun and not let it get to you and do your best.
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post #8 of 22 Old 05-26-2009, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mls View Post
Why not simply be proud of the job you did and let it go at that?
Yes, the "real reason of showing." Despite, this isn't the reason that anyone shows. Seriously, would anyone spend time and money compeating if they knew that they didn't have half a chance of placing? I know it sounds wrong, but I'm just being honest.


I just said the same thing as Irishrider and didn't even read her post before posting myself...strange... I guess good minds think a like. :)
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post #9 of 22 Old 05-26-2009, 06:49 PM
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ha ha yep, the old hack judges that hate ay-rabs. They are an undying breed... Aargh! I once got reserve champion arab at an ARAB show, because the other horse was a derivative and won because it's NON arab side gave it a better shoulder and better movement. Uh... Call me dumb but I thought the arab ring was judged against the ARAB BREED STANDARD. lol. I was so mad, my pony was sooo good!

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That's why I now do speed events, or at least events that have no element of human error :]

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