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        05-26-2009, 07:03 PM
    Why I prefer jumper.

    I even have an "acceptable" breed now and still run into bias. I asked a judge why he was placing in the lowest placings when he was doing so much better the month before against the same horses (it was a hunter series so most showed up each month).

    Now I know what behind the bit means in dressage and my boy does not go behind the bit but I was dumbfounded when the hunter judge said he placed him down because he was "behind the bit". The comment might have passed muster with anyone not familiar with dressage but don't tell a former dressage dudge that he was behind the bit and in a HUNTER class !!!!

    BTW...the following month he was show champion !!
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        05-26-2009, 07:06 PM
    I also hate the politics! I did so good in this one class and placed below a person who couldn't even get on the correct lead everytime they asked for the canter. I figured out that she's been showing there for a long time, and she's best freinds with the judge. Since it was my first time showing there I didn't place very high, and at the open shows it's way worst!
        05-26-2009, 07:07 PM
    Green Broke
    It's what you gotta deal with if you're going to show. The judges around here are anti draft in the show ring. So you either suck it up and show anyway and have fun and do your best or you don't. Some of the judges are a little too high and mighty. And as long as you show in their classes you're not going to win. It stinks!
        05-27-2009, 12:36 PM
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    That's why I now do speed events, or at least events that have no element of human error :]

    That is sooooooo funny, I am now considering doing speed with my horse. More fun, less work!!!
        05-27-2009, 01:31 PM
    I wouldn't say less work.
    There is still bias in the speed world. It doesn't come from the judges, but if you're trying to do barrels on anything but a quarter horse, people tend to judge you.
        05-27-2009, 02:55 PM
    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    I wouldn't say less work.
    There is still bias in the speed world. It doesn't come from the judges, but if you're trying to do barrels on anything but a quarter horse, people tend to judge you.

    No I know that I am going to be judged for having an Arab but at least all that matters is how my horse and I connect and how fast we do the patterns. I have delt with the bias people my entire horse carrier but that doesnt matter to me. What the clock says is what the clock says!!!

    I know that it will be hard work going from dressage and hunt to speed but my precision will be very precise from dressage training.
        05-27-2009, 06:39 PM
    Originally Posted by Brighteyes    
    Yes, the "real reason of showing." Despite, this isn't the reason that anyone shows. Seriously, would anyone spend time and money compeating if they knew that they didn't have half a chance of placing? I know it sounds wrong, but I'm just being honest.


    I just said the same thing as Irishrider and didn't even read her post before posting myself...strange... I guess good minds think a like. :)
    Haha. Well if you own Fjords then this must be true. One day I will own one. I just love them.
        05-27-2009, 07:27 PM
    Ugh! I know what you guys are talking about! There was a 17hh WB in my instructer's dressage class that PIGROOTED all down the long side in canter, the rider whacking it with the whip, and she STILL placed higher than the little 15.2 mixed breed she rode, who cantered on the correct lead the entire time!

    Oh, and I saw the WB's comments and he said that she 'rode through it well'...what? She was hitting him over and over again!
        05-27-2009, 07:31 PM
    Green Broke
    I don't know how some of you that show regularly deal with all the politics.
        05-28-2009, 03:28 PM
    Originally Posted by MIEventer    
    I used to do allot of flat shows back home, and if the Judge was a TB Judge, that's all that would pin. Or a QH Judge, that's all that would pin - etc, etc, etc.
    Yep I 100% agree. When I first moved up here it was ruled by QH's and Arabs. I never placed my first year up here and after a Hunter show(Open) with D I asked the judge thought we could improve on since I did not place (didn't want anyone else but we did get a wrong lead, I had one jump I got left behind a little so not a flawless round but we were the ONLY paint team) and the judge said QUOTE:" Go out and buy a Qh Paints should not be jumping, they below with the cows. Better luck next time, if you had a good breed of horse I would have used you."
    Me: X some huge number. I wanted to tell her what for but being the President of the Judges committe for this particular club I didn't want to shatter my chances of placeing in the futur. I kept showing with D and ONE judge guest judges their 'regional' show and she gave me first in everything! Ever since that Bay area judge used us. We've been placing more where we should and not dead last. Don't get me wrong we still have classes we don't always place in but I like to think it's because we had a bad round and not because I ride a paint.

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