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        08-07-2013, 11:44 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    That video is absolutely horrific. It made me sick.

    I hope that whomever made the decision at Bud was ignorant to these practices (though, I do agree that not /all/ of them are sored...).
    There are cruel people in every sport, and every discipline... Gah, /I'm upset now ;-;
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        08-07-2013, 05:13 PM
      #22
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    Toto, you are mistaken if you think all the offenders are prosecuted or even "pointed out" at shows. There is a strong undercurrent with the "inspections and inspectors" at the shows and many violations are ignored.

    Last year McConnell, after all that was proven about him, received 3 years PROBATION and a fine. That's all. So much for real punishment.

    Admitted Tennessee walking horse abuser avoids prison | timesfreepress.com

    The Congress tried to beef up the horse protection act....but the twhbea board of directors voted it down. They don't want it stronger. It might be too hard to let these things slip through the cracks.

    LAST YEAR 76% of the horses tested by the USDA tested positive for soring agents. You can bet 76% of those trainers were not prosecuted. Why is it that when the USDA comes behind the SHOW testers, self-policing of the industry became 700 percent better

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...n-USDA-present

    Foreign Substances Found in 76% Horses Tested by USDA at Walking Horse Event | TNReport

    People who really believe these practices are gone, are deciding they like looking at these shows with blinders on. What they refuse to see, must not exist.
    I didnt read where those horses were shown after being tested and results shown said they was sored? You're right- the USDA is stepping in to stop the soring and sored horses from showing in the events its a good thing for it too.

    would you say the sored horses aint being shown then- If so don't that mean theres no soring in the show ring?

    Im not saying people wont try it- its illegal to drive drunk and people do it Budweiser don't condone driving drunk but they do earn their money when people buy their beer- they might be drunk driving or they might be responsible drivers and have a designated driver-- Budweiser aint supporting soring either-- some people might be there and sore horses but not everyone at the shows are doing it.

    The walkers with the big pads are going to show and the celebration events are all kinds- halter showing (not padded horses) flat shod (not big pads regular shoes) yearling glasses (not ridden or padded or shod) etcetra- there is classes for horses with no shoes too- its a celebration of the walking horse not the celebration of soring.

    I agree with abuse can be seen at any show- its up to the people hosting the shows to decide that those horses aint allowed to participate in the show and that's what goes on at the celebration- followed by jailing.


    You know the trainer got jailed and convicted of horse abuse before getting a court date to decide he got probation- I don't see where the twhbea let him show again- far as I know he's banned from the association and showing horses in the twhbea shows-- I don't think he can even register a horse in the twhbea or have papers transferred in to his name.


    I don't think soring is right at all- its abusive and horrible but I can say its not whats being shown in the twhbea shows today.
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        08-07-2013, 06:54 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    I, for one, have sent Budweiser a note through their contact page expressing my disappointment that this is the equestrian event that they have decided to sponsor and associate themselves with. There are many other shows/disciplines they can sponsor that don't have the reputation of abusive practices that this show does. I, too, hope that this decision was made by some non-horsey higher-up who knows little to nothing about horses, and who would be aghast to learn what he has agreed to sponsor.
         
        08-07-2013, 08:02 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    I live in a wilderness setting, and have never been in the show circuit - my horses are loved beyond measure and enjoyed as the magnificent creatures that they are. To purposely harm them is unfathomable - another harming them would be in-excusable (and my fury would be such that they wished they never got out of bed that day). Regarding the soring topic - I do believe that there is a special place in hell reserved for those people.
         
        08-07-2013, 08:14 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by verona1016    
    I, for one, have sent Budweiser a note through their contact page expressing my disappointment that this is the equestrian event that they have decided to sponsor and associate themselves with. There are many other shows/disciplines they can sponsor that don't have the reputation of abusive practices that this show does. I, too, hope that this decision was made by some non-horsey higher-up who knows little to nothing about horses, and who would be aghast to learn what he has agreed to sponsor.

    I also sent them this message "It has come to my attention that Budweiser has decided to sponsor the "Big Lick" horse show this year. It breaks my heart to think that a company that has used horses to promote it's product will sponsor a show known for such horrid abuse against horses. Please reconsider your sponsorship of the most cruel horse show in the world. Please send a message that your company does NOT stand behind animal cruelty and take a stand against it. Please say "NO!" to soring horses."
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        08-07-2013, 08:25 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    I hope that everyone that loves horses will post their protest on Budweiser Facebook and also write to the company to let them know how we "the horse lovers' feel about them sponsoring the abuse.
         
        08-07-2013, 08:37 PM
      #27
    Banned
    How can someone write a letter calling the tennessee walking horse celebration ceremony 'the big lick show' demanding Budweiser stop selling beer at the event and expect to get credibility or respect?


    The celebration don't condone soring and budweiser don't either- sored horses aint shown in the ring- if they find out there had been soring the owners go to jail!
         
        08-07-2013, 08:45 PM
      #28
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    Toto, you are mistaken if you think all the offenders are prosecuted or even "pointed out" at shows. There is a strong undercurrent with the "inspections and inspectors" at the shows and many violations are ignored.

    Last year McConnell, after all that was proven about him, received 3 years PROBATION and a fine. That's all. So much for real punishment.

    Admitted Tennessee walking horse abuser avoids prison | timesfreepress.com

    The Congress tried to beef up the horse protection act....but the twhbea board of directors voted it down. They don't want it stronger. It might be too hard to let these things slip through the cracks.

    LAST YEAR 76% of the horses tested by the USDA tested positive for soring agents. You can bet 76% of those trainers were not prosecuted. Why is it that when the USDA comes behind the SHOW testers, self-policing of the industry became 700 percent better

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...n-USDA-present

    Foreign Substances Found in 76% Horses Tested by USDA at Walking Horse Event | TNReport

    People who really believe these practices are gone, are deciding they like looking at these shows with blinders on. What they refuse to see, must not exist.
    Toto-you responded to this, so I know you read it. These horses ARE in fact, shown. Get your head out of the sand, please.
         
        08-07-2013, 08:56 PM
      #29
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    Toto-you responded to this, so I know you read it. Hese horses ARE in fact, shown. Get your head out of the sand, please.
    Thats false- they check horses at every show.

    I frequent these shows and see what goes on with my own eyes- you read hate filled rants on here and watch videos couple years old and try to tie them in to new events- theyre long past that video.

    Do you know what precautions are taken to check for soring? They don't just do chem tests they take thermal images of the horses feet to show heat- if abnormalities are seen that horse is checked in to further 'investigated' for soring.


    Or you can just start another petition on outdated information, lol.
         
        08-07-2013, 09:04 PM
      #30
    Trained
    Yup, I sent them an email along with a link from the USDA from last year's event:
    http://www.humanesociety.org/news/pr...ts_050913.html
         

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