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        08-08-2013, 08:49 PM
      #51
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toto    
    Youre done discussing it with me because you do not have any factual information to back up your story.

    Budweiser wasnt even sponsoring the celebration- a local distributor was selling bud light, lol.

    Im reckoning Yall confused the budweiser people- they thought yall were saying their horses were sored pulling the budweiser wagon- or something of the sort from your letters reply-- I was a little confused too.

    This thread is looney! Sorry but it is- I can give you fact all day but am glad you're going to throw up the white flag here because im not going to let you bash the walking horse or the walking horse industry when you know nothing about any of them.
    Actually, I know better than to even THINK Anheiser Busch would treat the Clydes with anything but top shelf treatment. I am not at all confused. Not nearly as mush as some who seem to have delusions.

    I am only done here because I enjoy the forum in general and may say something that may get me banned if I state my thoughts on some members. Enough said, other than no white flag, I just know when I am beating my head against a wall with someone who will never open their eyes.
         
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        08-08-2013, 10:19 PM
      #52
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    A Finch.. Toto said that they TRY HARD.. so as a forum moderator you should carefully read each post before you tell some one that they are wrong.
    Toto also said;

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    I said no sored horses have been in the show ring since 08 and that's a fact!
    That is proven incorrect!


    Also;

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    it don't say anything about them being shown- they talked about those horses being tested and being sored before they entered the ring- that's when they do the testing
    As I pointed out that the USDA goes in sometimes AFTER the original testing is done. The horses they catch WERE going to be in the ring. The USDA does not have the funding to go to every show, so one can assume that when they are not there to catch the sored horses "missed" by the SHOW testers, they will be in the show ring. No rocket science there.

    As for their "trying hard"....Only some of the people are trying. Some others, a few of whom are at the very top of the game, are definitely NOT trying at all. The fact that this show is allowing the banned and, supposedly reviled, McConnel to sponsor a trophy being given at this show shows how little they care about cleaning up the industry, IMO.

    There were more comments that really got under my skin that I won't even bother with.

    Just because I am a mod (a VOLUNTEER who spends a lot of my time working here) doesn't mean I cannot also voice an opinion.







    Ill let you sock me if im wrong, lol.
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        08-09-2013, 12:15 AM
      #53
    Showing
    While everyone is looking at the Big Lick, whether soring is involved or not, no one is looking at the pain caused by hyperextending the hind quarters. These horses wind up with torn muscles from the stifle thro the hocks.
         
        08-09-2013, 08:33 AM
      #54
    Cat
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toto    
    This thread is looney! Sorry but it is- I can give you fact all day but am glad you're going to throw up the white flag here because im not going to let you bash the walking horse or the walking horse industry when you know nothing about any of them.
    Toto - I haven't seen any actual facts presented by you yet. At least not accurate facts. You act like you are the only one on this forum that lives in Walker country and knows what goes on in those shows. You are completely incorrect on that matter. Some of us see this first hand - not just via old videos.

    Soring is not old news. They still make it to the show ring. There is lack of funding that prevents the USDA from being at every show so they make random surprise visits. It stops some, but not all.

    The inspectors/testers at the show SHOULD catch soring before hand as that was the plan, but be honest now. If you live in Walking horse country you know what its like around here. Its nothing but a big Good Ole' Boys club and the ones that are members of it have a blind eye turned on what they do.

    You've shown nothing but how niave you are in this thread. I think the reason people are throwing up the "white flags" so to speak is that its hard to get anywhere when arguing with a brick wall.
         
        08-09-2013, 09:57 AM
      #55
    Trained


    Well said Cat. Thank you
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        08-09-2013, 08:05 PM
      #56
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cat    
    Toto - I haven't seen any actual facts presented by you yet. At least not accurate facts. You act like you are the only one on this forum that lives in Walker country and knows what goes on in those shows. You are completely incorrect on that matter. Some of us see this first hand - not just via old videos.

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    Soring is not old news. They still make it to the show ring. There is lack of funding that prevents the USDA from being at every show so they make random surprise visits. It stops some, but not all.
    when I typed this its wrong- when you do its fact?


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    The inspectors/testers at the show SHOULD catch soring before hand as that was the plan, but be honest now. If you live in Walking horse country you know what its like around here. Its nothing but a big Good Ole' Boys club and the ones that are members of it have a blind eye turned on what they do.

    You've shown nothing but how niave you are in this thread. I think the reason people are throwing up the "white flags" so to speak is that its hard to get anywhere when arguing with a brick wall.
    No they don't 'have a blind eye turned' that's what the media wants people to think- its definitely a money problem than it is a 'i don't care' deal- you can't tell me walking horse people aint disgusted by the soring and believe you aint lying to yourself-- im disgusted and so is every one else that hears about soring! Its cruel thing to do!

    Niave? Because I know first hand and yall are bashing something yall don't know about?

    when someone has to resort to insult or talk off topic- theyve lost with no more false information to go by- I can tell truths about twhbea shows all day and you can go on hear say- or what someone told you about the 'good ol boys' last I checked a 'good ol boy' is honest and goes by the books- not some ol redneck cheat!
         
        08-09-2013, 08:10 PM
      #57
    Green Broke
    So much anger!

    This thread was about a petition for Budweiser to not sponsor at the show.


    Job complete.

    So why the continued bashing??? Goodnessssss
         
        08-09-2013, 08:21 PM
      #58
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    Toto also said;



    That is proven incorrect!
    They don't wait to test the horses after theyve shown with the thermal image cameras- that would mess up the thermo imaging- a further investigation would be doing x-raying and then the horse still wouldnt be in the show ring but would happen at the trainers barn or in the veterinarian office.


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    Also;


    As I pointed out that the USDA goes in sometimes AFTER the original testing is done. The horses they catch WERE going to be in the ring. The USDA does not have the funding to go to every show, so one can assume that when they are not there to catch the sored horses "missed" by the SHOW testers, they will be in the show ring. No rocket science there.
    i saw you wrote how they used caustic chemicals to sore-- my friend cleans the hoods over the stoves in restaurants- he uses caustic-- he has scars from where the chamical has burned right through to the bone- I am wondering why you think some of the testers would let that slip? Big sores on horses ankles that would be called in to the aspca or another abuse hotline by the fans in the crowds- not only does the twhbea not like that thing at their shows the fans don't want to see sore wounded horses being ridden!

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    As for their "trying hard"....Only some of the people are trying. Some others, a few of whom are at the very top of the game, are definitely NOT trying at all. The fact that this show is allowing the banned and, supposedly reviled, McConnel to sponsor a trophy being given at this show shows how little they care about cleaning up the industry, IMO.
    The people at the top of the game are the ones paying for the testers etcetera -i sure want them to do a good job if im paying them to keep all kinds of fines maybe being sued off my shoulders!

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    There were more comments that really got under my skin that I won't even bother with.

    Just because I am a mod (a VOLUNTEER who spends a lot of my time working here) doesn't mean I cannot also voice an opinion.

    I accept you opinions and respect them- I also have opinions and expect the same respect when I voice mine that I give you- I think you do have respect for my opinions and I thank you for that but theres a few comments made that are just out of line here or that have no place here and I will not respect those ones- not made by you but a few others.







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    Ill let you sock me if im wrong, lol.
    ^ the quote you didnt like?
         
        08-10-2013, 12:09 AM
      #59
    Super Moderator
    This subject is a very interesting and pertinent subject to the modern horse world. The discussion is great, but please, pretty please, keep it civil.
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        08-10-2013, 12:14 AM
      #60
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    It definitely is. I had written to them via FB, and here is the response I got:


    Budweiser: "Thank you for writing, K. We can assure you that our Budweiser Clydesdales are treated like royalty and receive the utmost respect and care from our team. It seems we’ve been misidentified by some media as the corporate sponsor for the Tennessee Walking Horse Celebration.

    In fact, we are not a corporate sponsor, and our Budweiser Clydesdales have no affiliation or appearances related to this event. Attached is a retraction of an original article.

    Roy Exum: Budweiser Is Not A Sponsor - 08/08/2013 - Chattanoogan.com
    Like Reply about an hour ago"


    This is wonderful news, and sadly came after I made a comment on their FB page. I am leaving my comment, as maybe with all their money they can do a commercial stating that they are not involved, they are firing the distributor who is supporting the event, and just educate people all over.
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