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        08-11-2013, 10:47 AM
      #71
    Yearling
    Is this not put to rest yet?
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        08-11-2013, 11:46 AM
      #72
    Trained
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    Is this not put to rest yet?
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    Not as long as people keep replying
         
        08-11-2013, 11:58 AM
      #73
    Started
    Shouldn't rest until the big lick is done.
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        08-11-2013, 12:01 PM
      #74
    Trained
    I really think this particular one is no longer pertinent, since we know that Budweiser IS NOT sponsoring the event. That was the subject of this thread. JMHO.
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        08-11-2013, 07:52 PM
      #75
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Foxhunter    
    If the society allows people who have convictions for storing to be judges or to have anyone on the committee that has, then they are lunatics.

    One thing I dislike about the US is the fact that people talk a lot about it and do nothing.

    It is easy to stop things like this if some people are willing to stick their necks out and make new rules. Catch a few of the main trainers who show, ban them for life for showing, heavily fine both them and the owners and see how many want to follow suit.
    No good saying " he is one of the best walker show barns in the country,' and lettitaking him get away with it. If he had his livelyhood taken away then that would be that.
    It might be that they still run a barn and are there as an advisory person but if the ban extended to them not being allowed to attend a show, and horses from that barn were caught having been sored then the same thing happens, ban whoever is officially in charge, make the fines higher second time for all concerned. They would have to be pretty thick to keep trying it.

    I love everything about this so I didnt edit your quote- just bold the part that is dead on!

    People can have 1000 petitions but paper can be stuffed in a file in a locked drawer not seen for ever- live bodys taking proper action to stop things like soring is whats needed done! Agreed 1000 %
         
        08-12-2013, 09:23 PM
      #76
    Green Broke
    Toto .. the tail injections are cruel. But in the older days , they 2 x 4 ' them. Gross.
    Stick a piece of 2 x4 under the tail at the top by the butt, take another one , give a good whack.. no more tail wringing.. fx tail.
         
        08-12-2013, 11:36 PM
      #77
    Showing
    Rather than petitions, appeal to people to write a once sentence note to the state governor. "I oppose the soring of horses". That is all that's needed. We opposed a government proposal by holding a mass mailing. Even warned the post office. We had three days to mail it and we won. It can be done. If enough letters are mailed, the governor will start to become a little concerned it all the writers will vote for someone else if action isn't taken.
         
        08-13-2013, 04:01 PM
      #78
    Yearling
    I don't understand the need to "animate" a gait? A horse is supposed to be judged by its natural ability. If you have to use weights and pads and chemicals then it is not natural. There is abuse in every breed show. Like the chemicals under arabs' tails. And weren't they cutting nerves in AQHA and tying western pleasure horses heads up for long periods of time? If the judging was better then trainers would not try to get to this. If those unnatural horses were the last in the class every single time and a natural horse got first and the money, then trainers would strive towards the natural. They just want to win and care only for money! Those horses are pacing though. They do not look like they are performing a four beat gait? Those people in the video sicken me. I wish I could beat those people with a whip when they can hardly stand. So sad. They are such kind sweet animals. I don't understand why people do this. Of all the living things, humans are the cruelest.
         
        08-13-2013, 04:04 PM
      #79
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toto    
    I love everything about this so I didnt edit your quote- just bold the part that is dead on!

    People can have 1000 petitions but paper can be stuffed in a file in a locked drawer not seen for ever- live bodys taking proper action to stop things like soring is whats needed done! Agreed 1000 %
    we need an angry mob. One with whips and chains. And beat these horrific people who abuse animals senseless. Maybe authorities will "look the other way" as they do with the abuse of these animals. There needs to be an examination done on every horse by a neutral veterinarian and law enforcement behind them. Just like they test race horses and other show horses for certain drugs.
         
        08-13-2013, 04:20 PM
      #80
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Foxhunter    
    One thing I dislike about the US is the fact that people talk a lot about it and do nothing.

    ?????

    I am sure people in YOUR country do the same. That statement is just Wow! For your information there has been a lot of work done to stop this practice. It is bumping into an ingrained "good ole boy" network, though.



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    It is easy to stop things like this if some people are willing to stick their necks out and make new rules. Catch a few of the main trainers who show, ban them for life for showing, heavily fine both them and the owners and see how many want to follow suit.
    You need to study a bit on this. There HAVE been rules put in place because of the efforts made. However, the good ole boys are often ignoring them.

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    No good saying " he is one of the best walker show barns in the country,' and letting him get away with it. If he had his livelyhood taken away then that would be that.
    It might be that they still run a barn and are there as an advisory person but if the ban extended to them not being allowed to attend a show, and horses from that barn were caught having been sored then the same thing happens, ban whoever is officially in charge, make the fines higher second time for all concerned. They would have to be pretty thick to keep trying it.
    Sigh

    Again, read up on the efforts being made. I will say no more......
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