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    09-11-2011, 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by QH Gunner    
-Actually, after having a town bicentennial & talking to Indians- they do find it offensive unless someone takes the time to research it & do it right. They were excited we were going to include an Indian segment in our celebration, but were adamant about us researching & doing it the right ways. Exactly such as colors, different feather & headbands.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it- I think it sounda like an awesome idea. & it is easy to portray it like you should as there is VAST info online about it.
Good Luck! I can't wait to see pics :)
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Thanks, GH Gunner that's what I was saying exactly. When I said, not saying not to do it, just do it respectfully.

And I am 1/4th Native, and even tho I don't participate in native gatherings and celebrations, part of my family does and its part of who I am. So, yea, I do have some incite on how they would react to someone war whooping. Yes these people are very serious (b/c that's what they have grown up seeing on tv, and NOT trying to be disrespectful, but they also assume that natives are very rare-they arent, and that they can imitate it by watching Peter Pan.)
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    09-11-2011, 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Northern    
Offensive to Indians? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. "We think you're style is so cool, we want to look like you!"
A native's ceremonial clothing isnt a "STYLE", it all has a meaning and a part in their spiritual beliefs. So they arent wearing that feather in their hair b/c its cool, they are wearing it b/c it was gifted to them for acheiving something very promenant and important in their life.
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    09-11-2011, 06:36 PM
Native Appropriations: But Why Can't I Wear a Hipster Headdress?

This is a blog by a concerned FULL blooded Cherokee college student. She is very sweet but very forward on her feelings of imitating native culture. Most tribes are fine with it IF you use it was a way to educate yourself to their culture.
    09-12-2011, 12:26 AM
I already have things beaded in all sorts of colors and I can't redo that part now but to do the rest respectfully, what paint colors and symbols should I use?

Also instead of my arab mare I think I will take my solid black appy/ QH and have my mom "spray paint" him while im showing the arab throughout the show so that he is ready by that class and all I have to do is get myself dressed.

Should I "spray paint" appy patterns or paint horse patterns on him? Which would be easier? I want to make it realistic but time matters too

P.S. My appy/ QH is Joe if you want to see him in my pics
    09-12-2011, 05:56 AM
You don't need to do anything to ur horse. Natives (even the past) rode horses of many colors. Only prized horse (that I know of) in the culture is the medicine hat paint. (Side note-super glad mine wasnt considered on, b/c my aunt got onto about it-b/c only chiefs or medicine man are allowed to ride them.)

Honestly tho, clothing wise... keep it simple. In the past Cherokee women didnt paint themselves (this would be a great way for you to get outta painting urself). I can't recall seeing any women wearing paint at the pow-wows I went to when I was younger either. Lots of jewelry tho. Especially copper armbands, and beads. Deerskin tunic and wrap skirt (adding leggings to save ur poor thighs is fine, lol...) As for the horse.... I actually have a good idea....

I was going to tell you not to paint him (which I meant his spots)... but then I started thinking of you as a native woman who gathered her husbands horse after he died in battle. The warrior would leave his handprint (in his own blood) upside down on the horse. There are other symbols you can use... Im actually trying to google an accurate drawing of them for you. But at a cherokee wedding the couple wraps themselves in a white blanket, so you could do that too.

HA! Found one! LOLIndian symbols used on the war horse -Native American Indian Tribes - Over 2,000 articles on native american indians, their culture & traditions.

Im 26 now, and the last time I was at a pow-wow was when I was.... 11? But I can't remember seeing any horses there. The only problem with me tho, is I am 3 different tribes of native (Shawnee, Cherokee, and Powhatan) AND Scottish and English! LOL. So I get them all mixed up. The only pow-wows I have been to have been were Cherokee.
    09-12-2011, 05:58 AM
Oh, and I would keep to dull colors (instead of the bright acrylics), and only pic a few symbols to use. You don't want him to look too busy.
    09-12-2011, 06:13 PM
Here are my ideas of painting my horse: find round stickers and place randomly on butt, "spray paint" butt, peel off stickers to now have an appy butt (i know not all indians rode flashy horses but it makes the costume look better lol), elmers kids washable paint- red circle around eye, yellow triangles on hooves, purple lightning stikes on shoulders (both sides), and I kinda want somethin blue on his hip but not sure what symbol I could use

I don't want to have to paint my hand cause knowing me, I would then get paint everywhere. The washable paint I have comes in a squeese toob with a brush attached so its not so messy
    09-12-2011, 06:32 PM

"Sun of Happiness, a most important symbol, was used to insure blue skies. Indians never hunted during a rainstorm because they considered it unfair to the Great Spirit and to the buffalo."

Would I be able to put this on his hip? Or is there a certain area you are supposed to put it?
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    09-13-2011, 02:22 AM
Like I said, not many pow wows included horses, lol... so Im not sure, but Im glad to see you doing ur research! I'll look it up too. But Im glad ur taking this seriously and with respect! I have faith in you. Witht eh way ur going about it and the attitude you have with it, I don't think ur going to offend anyone if you misplace ONE symbol...

About the hand print tho... Do you think you can get a male friend to do it for you?

And the appy butt stickers is actually pretty good, lol... maybe you can get those yard sale stickers from walmart and use those?

I definitely wanna see the pics! Im proud, and I don't even know you!
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    09-13-2011, 02:33 AM
The sun of happiness is a hunting symbol, and painted on the horse for hunts. However, you don't have to worry about the colors with some of the symbols.

But you could also do a hail stone or victory arrow.

Just read on the site that sioux tribe loved appy's!

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