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post #1 of 21 Old 09-16-2012, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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Fourth Show....Results are "rigged"

I've been showing, finally! I am always in the jumping classes, but the courses are so darn hard to remember!

This past show (yesterday, in fact), I was in two jumping classes (2'3" to 2'6" max). I remembered the first course perfectly, and I got first against the only other competitor in that class. The notorious #1010. Allow me to expand: This girl has been jumping for six years, and showing for a long time. She is VERY good. Now, normally, I welcome the chance to ride against someone like this. But NOT when her MOTHER is the person who designs the courses! That's right. This girl's mom (who is very nice....or was. I still like her, though, even though she helps her daughter cheat) makes the courses VERY difficult. WAY more difficult than they ought to be at dinky little local shows like this. Basically, this girl, 1010, gets to learn the courses a week in advance, and I learn them five minutes before my number is called. And I have to go before she does, because my number is 49.

The ONLY reason I beat her in my first jumping class was because her horse knocked a pole and then had a refusal. The next jumping class I was in (which was right after the first), I remembered the first jump....Only the first jump. I was out there looking like a fool, trying to remember which one came after and jumping random jumps in the process, and having three refusals because I couldn't set my horse up right. This girl did it FLAWLESSLY. And what's worse: She looked like she had done the course before. None of the courses are the same. She looked like she had been practicing all week so that she put beat us to a jam and spread us on her toast.

She's a nice girl. She really is, and so is her mother. I just don't see how this is fair.

At least I beat her, though. I had never beaten her before. And getting second (once again) in the next course really wasn't that bad. It was our sponsor show, so first place got a groom tote, which I really didn't need, and second place got a pair of brand new half chaps, which I was already shopping for online. So I got first place and a pair of half chaps. And another second place and a third place in rail classes.

It was a good day. The only vice was the unfairness of the courses.
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post #2 of 21 Old 09-16-2012, 12:20 PM
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That does stink but look at the positive, even with having the extra advantage you still beat her

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post #3 of 21 Old 09-16-2012, 12:38 PM
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I agree with MH haha we've all had those people that just aren't fair at shows. The girl who cleans up at our local shows has a professionally trained reining horse that her Grandma does all the training adn tuning with, the girl just hops on and shows, and doesn't even tack up her horse! Just remember, you play fair and that's what people will remember you as, hard working and trying! not winning and learning nothing. haha hope that made sense! Good luck on your jumping! Always wanted to do it
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post #4 of 21 Old 09-16-2012, 12:40 PM
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Girls who have things handed to them suffer later in life when they have to actually earn things.

You did well, and it sounds like you will continue to do so.

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Haha, thanks guys. He did do as well as I would have liked. He was pretty sluggish and lazy yesterday....maybe because I jumped him 3ft a few times the night before....I over prepared him, lol, which wore him out.
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I remember doing a show years ago, and there was a girl with this Arabian, and while everyone else was working their own horse, tacking up, grooming etc., she had her, I'm assuming trainer, do the tacking up and the lunging. She got on the horse to do the classes, then promptly handed horse back to trainer. Now this was a 4-h FFA show, big year end show, but no one else had a personal trainer like that. She placed in the top 3 in every class that she did, but I agree with Breela.

When both these girls finally have to actually work for their success, which they will eventually, they will be suffering having to learn, where as you will already be there, because you've had to do the work all along, and already mastered that lesson. Good luck to you in future shows!

I was always lucky, and was able to watch several other people go before I did, and I've also always been pretty good at memorizing things, but it sounds like you don't get that opportunity. I wish I could give you some advice on how to better memorize a course, but I at a loss. Hopefully someone else can give you some tips and pointers.
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post #7 of 21 Old 09-16-2012, 01:41 PM
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Well done for beating her.
I'm afraid there are always going to be the types who just 'hop on' a ready made pony. When we were showing you would see all the grooms working in the kids very expensive ponies and they just get on and go in the ring on them like a lot of clockwork mice
That does not make for a good rider though
I do think the coursebuilding thing is unfair though. I worked for someone (UK) who held several shows a year and I used to build the courses to a plan. I was not allowed to enter these classes and none of the people who kept their horses on the yard were allowed to go anywhere near the course before the day. We were really strict about it.
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Congrats on your results, well done..

I understand why you chose your title, but I think it's a little unfair, the results aren't actually 'rigged' as such, if you went clear, and she had several poles down, and fell off and still won, well that's rigged

You don't know for sure that she practices the course, she may do, she may not, but you know you can beat her, because you did, and that is awesome. Maybe she has a good memory, and just had a good class, maybe she has been practising, who knows?

I sympathize with you having such a short time to remember courses, I'm lucky I do the same dressage tests all year, but still use a reader sometimes I seem to recall that jumping course were easier to remember though, mind you that was like 100's of years ago, everything was easier to remember.
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It is unfair, but also seems to be the common theme at schooling shows. Good job though on the first place and new half chaps!

I understand the frustration of forgetting courses. I am horrible for going off course at least once a year. My brain just seems to fall out and I canter around going "where am I supposed to be going anyway?". And i've been showing for almost 20 years! lol. So don't stress. We all do it. I have seen big name riders forget their courses.

One thing that can help though is instead of memorizing it as "quarter line side roll back diagonal side etc..." try memorizing it as "blue quarter line to brown outside line to flower box diagonal etc" by memorizing them with the colour or style of fence it will help make it a bit easier to know where you are going. And hey... if you ever decide to do jumpers instead of hunters the fences are numbered at most shows! lol
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Congrats on your results, well done..

I understand why you chose your title, but I think it's a little unfair, the results aren't actually 'rigged' as such, if you went clear, and she had several poles down, and fell off and still won, well that's rigged

You don't know for sure that she practices the course, she may do, she may not, but you know you can beat her, because you did, and that is awesome. Maybe she has a good memory, and just had a good class, maybe she has been practising, who knows?

I sympathize with you having such a short time to remember courses, I'm lucky I do the same dressage tests all year, but still use a reader sometimes I seem to recall that jumping course were easier to remember though, mind you that was like 100's of years ago, everything was easier to remember.
Yeah, I think I'll change the title. But the thing is: My trainer knows the mom personally, and I think he has worked with her in the past. He's not the kind of person who talks a lot, but when he does speak, he rarely makes a mistake and he always says what's important, so I trust that he knows what he's talking about when he says that she probably knew the course a week in advance. I wasn't the only rider who had trouble with that course. They used the course twice in that show. One was in a class with 2' max, and the other time was in my class. There were three riders in the shorter fences class, and two of them had trouble with the course. One of them screwed up almost as badly as I did. ><

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