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Hi everyone. Well I had my 2nd show ever today. It was a fun show, I showed in w/t classes. So well I am so mad that the judge is ******ed. Warning: If you want to say negative comments, watch yourself, no one knows the situation nor the horse nor the judge nor the circumstances nor the show grounds nor my experience. So my classes:
Showmanship Beginner 14 & under
Halter: Mares
Equitation Beginner 14& under
Pleasure Beginner 14 & under (err)
Command Beginner 14 & under

So my story:
I went in for pleasure and their was a horse that was acting like a crap head go figures. I circle around and pass the gate. The judge is standing at the gate. Secret curves off and tries to get out the gate, almost running the judge over. I say "Woh", she stops. The judge turns around and gets all nasty! I start moving her over to the rail and my trainer was helping with the horses in the ring. So, mind that the class has not started yet and people are still entering. So she goes up to my trainer and says "No horse that does that deserves to be in the ring, take your student out!". She has not business doing that. Guess what, my trainer complained, and you know what the judge said to the show manager which the show manager told my trainer. She said "No one her deserves to canter because the all can't ride". That judge got some nerve! Well, watch out judge. I will attack. And as an extra, we were joking around about how bad the judge was. My trainer said "if she says something to you just run her over and let Secret (my horse) kick her" lol. I was laughing so hard and then she is like "and say "I know I am excused"" lol LOL LOL. Made me laugh so hard. I was giggling till I entered the ring. Then I just put on my frowny face lol. I really didn't care.

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I don't know the horse or you or the judge, but I'd freak out if someone's horse would almost run over me innocently standing off the horse's way. I was a dressage stuard just this past weekend and saw some horses almost run over people. Was NOT fun to watch. If you can't control the horse - don't ride where people are standing simply because horse can hurt the bystander in a matter of sec. JMHO.

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I don't know the horse or you or the judge, but I'd freak out if someone's horse would almost run over me innocently standing off the horse's way. I was a dressage stuard just this past weekend and saw some horses almost run over people. Was NOT fun to watch. If you can't control the horse - don't ride where people are standing simply because horse can hurt the bystander in a matter of sec. JMHO.
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She was not innocently standing. She was yelling at people at the gate and standing like right where the horses where walking. I was in the ring. It might sound unbelievable but a judge can be that stupid. Here is a perfect example.
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Kid it happens to the best of us it dose not mean we can not controle are horse. Some times are horses decide they do not want to be controled. IE that is why it is a dangerous sport.
I have a very sessond show horse that I love to death but when I got him he had a few issues with coming off the rail and doing patterns. He was beeten by a trainer badly when he was younger. He had major nerve damage done to his head. So horse has reasons to come unskrewd sometimes.
An way we have almost run over several juges in are time.
In horsemanship and equitation they usaly sit down well I have scrached a class just cause the juges chairs were to close to the patern. Now that being said I have never had a judge be rude or mean to me. I show on the AQHA circute and we get to know are judges very well and my trainer is very active in the association so he knows most of them whicht meant we would go out to diner and laph about it over drinks.
I was once told that if I steped on him I would have to pay him $100 thank goodness my horse realy don't want to step on them just see who moves his feet first.
So keep practicing and keep your chin up. Sonds like you got a good trainer that will help you threw it.

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KittenVal's right... no matter what the judge was doing, the rider should have enough control over the horse to keep the horse atleast a couple feet away from the judge. If she really was in the way, ask her to move before trying to squeeze by. And I highly doubt the judge was ******ed... in fact, that may be how she felt about you, ya know?

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raywonk- You don't know how happy I feel to have you on my side. LOL. Somebody that understand. Secret is a sweet mare when she feels like it.

My Beau- Actually, I wasn't trying to squeeze through. I tried to stop her but she wouldn't stop. Guess what, she made us stand head-to-tail in halter and showmanship. Great judge right??
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Well, from the judge's point of view... if you couldn't stop her from a walk, would you be able to stop her in the ring from a trot?

Head to tail... I show dressage, but I'd assume that most people would leave enough space in between their horse and the horse in front of them so there is no chance to be kicked.

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Hi everyone. Well I had my 2nd show ever today. It was a fun show, I showed in w/t classes. So well I am so mad that the judge is ******ed. Warning: If you want to say negative comments, watch yourself, no one knows the situation nor the horse nor the judge nor the circumstances nor the show grounds nor my experience. Here is the deal. You posted on a public forum for input. I will take into consideration that, obviously, you are under 14. Not sure what you think you will do to me, as an adult. So my classes:
Showmanship Beginner 14 & under
Halter: Mares
Equitation Beginner 14& under
Pleasure Beginner 14 & under (err)
Command Beginner 14 & under

So my story:
I went in for pleasure and their was a horse that was acting like a crap head go figures. I circle around and pass the gate. The judge is standing at the gate. Secret curves off and tries to get out the gate, almost running the judge over. I say "Woh", she stops. The judge turns around and gets all nasty! I start moving her over to the rail and my trainer was helping with the horses in the ring. So, mind that the class has not started yet and people are still entering. So she goes up to my trainer and says "No horse that does that deserves to be in the ring, take your student out!". She has not business doing that. Guess what, my trainer complained, and you know what the judge said to the show manager which the show manager told my trainer. She said "No one her deserves to canter because the all can't ride". That judge got some nerve! Well, watch out judge. I will attack. And as an extra, we were joking around about how bad the judge was. My trainer said "if she says something to you just run her over and let Secret (my horse) kick her" lol. I was laughing so hard and then she is like "and say "I know I am excused"" lol LOL LOL. Made me laugh so hard. I was giggling till I entered the ring. Then I just put on my frowny face lol. I really didn't care.
I would love to know the level of show we are talking about. My guess is perhaps a schooling show? Local? 4h? Anyway, you should have control of your horse. That said, yes, horses will be horses at times, and can be difficult. That is why you had a trainer there, who should have been telling you to go to the OTHER side of the ring, AWAY from the judge, gate and turmoil, and let your horse settle a bit. Her mistake, and you are there to learn, as is your horse. Your trainer, to me sounds like an idiot. To say something like that to a kid-well, if it had been my daughter-we would have been looking for a new trainer. Not appropriate at all, IMO. Nor, was the incident funny, in any stretch of the imagination. Someone could have been hurt, uncluding you,m your horse, etc.

Learn from this, and the next time, go into the arena and go as far from everyone as possible. Most likely that will make you and your horse look the best.

I think you also need a good lesson in respect, and you will not go far unless you enter EVERY show with a smile and a good attitude. You don't have to love the judge, or agree with them, you just have to make them think you do.

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Some will do that it is more from the halter world than the showmanship and makes it hard to do your quarters but it is not unherd of as to whear the judge came from. The problem I have is you said it was a schooling show. When you go to a schooling show you expect to have some horse and rider issues that is why it is a schooling show or fun show. So to be rude and not helpfull is what burns me up. I still show my crazzy geilding it has been 5 yr sence we tryed to kill anyone and he has moved on some from his issues. He now gives lessons which is awsome and my son rides him which I never would have amagend yrs ago. I would have helped you and tryed to make suggestions to help you the next time. None of us woke up one day and new how to ride. We all get nervous when we enter the show pin. If you have a nother horse acting up infront of you and you are trying to get out of the way it only makes you more nervous.So you know what it happens.

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DON'T say anything about my trainer. Have you ridden my horse? Have you met my trainer? She has had MANY other issues with this judge at other shows. I think you should keep in mind that I was very upset as I really wanted to do pleasure, my fav thing! She wanted make me laugh. If the judge isn't going to respect me I am not going to smile at her for being annoying and rude. It is a fun show. As for my first post, Seriously! I just meant, ya know what, its rude if your going to get all annoying and mean on me just back off. I don't think that anyone understands my horse. Horse showing is fun and my trainer is not just someone I pay to give me lessons and everything. She is my friend and horses are supposed to be fun. I needed a laugh and she made me more happy. I really don't think you should be so negative when you have never met my horse.
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