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        10-08-2013, 11:37 AM
    Your decision, but I would have no personal issue with it.

    I completely understand where you are coming from, however.

    For me, as someone who has struggled financially and had some rat bag horses along the way, I would have loved the opportunity to ride a well trained horse, and have a been there done that to take to a show.

    Naturally there are risks.. but there always are with horses. If the horse will find that one sharp thing in acres of field, it will ;)

    Agree with Saddlebag, however. Did you get it in writing?

    Another thing I would have insisted on is a written contract, as I did with leases on my old horse, and what I have drafted up for a horse I now have on lease. Who is responsible for care of tack, if the horse is injured in a lesson, or as a direct fault of the trainer/rider etc who forks out for vets bills?
    Sorry to go off subject, but I really did learn the hard way, that when it comes down to the nitty gritty of money no one is your friend.. especially in the horse world!
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        10-08-2013, 12:30 PM
    Saddlebag-No, I don't have any friends where he is. I have never lived in Texas before, and have only visited twice so I really don't know anyone. My parents live there, and check on him weekly where he is kept.

    As far as a contract goes... it seems like I am a day late and a dollar short. This arrangement has been in place since June, and it seems silly to ask for it now. What are other's thoughts?
        10-08-2013, 12:34 PM
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    How long is your horse going to be there for?
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        10-08-2013, 12:58 PM
    ^The original plan was... well, forever. The plan was that I would be finishing up my senior year of college in Texas. But things were pushed back, and it was looking like I wouldn't get there 'til May or later.

    But, now I am questioning the decision altogether and am just considering bringing him home.
        10-08-2013, 04:30 PM
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    Originally Posted by Zexious    
    ^The original plan was... well, forever. The plan was that I would be finishing up my senior year of college in Texas. But things were pushed back, and it was looking like I wouldn't get there 'til May or later.

    But, now I am questioning the decision altogether and am just considering bringing him home.
    Hm, I misunderstood and thought that you would just be keeping him there by himself for a month or two until you moved. May is a long way and several thousand dollars in board away. If you can afford to bring him back to you, you like the barn up where you are now, and you would actually have time to spend with him then I would bring him back.

    Suddenly demanding they pay for half of his board could cause a situation between you and the barn owner that you can't handle properly without being there. It's possible that they would be very understanding and pick up some of the expenses, or they could get angry. I wouldn't just call her up one day and make the request. If you decide that you need to move him or get some compensation, then I'd either do it if you got a chance to go down there, or have your parents able to help out. And be ready to have another barn and a trailer lined up- I hate to sound paranoid, but angry horse people can be bad news. If I was in your position though, I would not let things stand as is for the better part of a year. One or two months is one thing, but you would be spending thousands of dollars for someone else to make money off of a horse that you aren't able to ride!
        10-08-2013, 04:58 PM
    ^It was originally just supposed to be a month or two.

    I'm really in a sticky sort of situation. The hauling fees were close to $1,500. Which was fine, but I really can't afford to do that two more times if I bring him back to CO, then change my mind and want to go back to TX. I need to make a decision about whether I am staying or going, and then go from there.

    Though I am busy, time was never an issue. I always had time to spend with him, and still did.

    The other issue is that I don't have a barn I'm at now. I kept him at a show barn that was nearly $700 for paddock board alone. Fees were just piling on top of that. While I could afford it, it left me with very little room to do anything else. Plus, it was pretty far, about a 40 minute drive. So, I would need to decide if I wanted to give up my social life and go back to that lifestyle, or keep him somewhere low key and just ride him. Either way, I'd need to make those connections again.

    I'd like to take lessons in the meantime, but find myself in a bit of a pickle there as well. The barns that have trainers teaching in the area at a level appropriate to mine really don't keep school horses, and charge a hefty fee to use a boarder's horse. This usually brings lessons to $70+. Though other barns are cheaper, they just aren't the quality of instruction that I would benefit from at this stage in my horsie career.

    I am by no means the 'demanding' type, so that was never really up for consideration. I would just continue paying for full board until I figure it out.

    Ugh. I'm so confused and don't know what to do... Does anyone have any suggestions about the long run? D:
        10-08-2013, 05:05 PM
    If he is there forever... Well, then I would make a deal with the BO. If you are in a position to do so, then get a buy back contract.
    Sell or gift him to the yard. He can reach a potential with students and others.

    And you are not financially out of pocket, paying for a horse you may see on the odd occasion? Unless I am mistaking something here ;)

    I gifted my heart horse to my trainer. I have no doubt when he reaches a right age and education he will be in lessons, and in their carriage, and possibly at competitions. But I would very rarely get to see him, or financially afford to keep him. Now I can spend the money going back to see him instead.
        10-08-2013, 05:14 PM
    ^Maybe I am doing a bad job at explaining myself... Him being there forever was the plan, but only under the precedence that I was going to move there. First it would be in August (which I don't think I mentioned in this thread), then it was pushed back. It was just a matter of when. But now I am questioning that move altogether. If I don't move, I'll bring him back to CO. It's just not a move that I want him to have to make twice.

    I really don't want to sell or gift him. He's my baby ._.
        10-08-2013, 07:48 PM
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    Perhaps you can look into finding a child that wants to lease him (with or without showing privileges) at this or another barn. If he is as great and loved by his lesson kids as you say he is, then he is worth his weight in gold as a lease horse. Could you have a discussion with the barn owner that basically goes along the lines of "My riding career is suffering because I can't take lessons, but I cannot afford to because my horse budget is maxed out". Then say that you would like to either lease him out, or that she can enter into a lease agreement. I wouldn't make any drastic decisions to move him over to you without having your plans figured out- it does seem excessive to spend another $3000 to have him hauled there and back before you know where you will ultimately end up. If you feel as though you'll answer that question pretty soon then I'd just stick with the current situation until then, but if you won't decide until next year then I'd look into the lease possibility in the meantime.

    Still though, I'd be careful in how you approach the situation as far as communicating with the barn owner. If she's at all a reasonable person then she will understand, but not all horse folks are reasonable when they suddenly have to pay for something that they feel entitled to. I'd look into other barns in the area as that you can possibly relocate to if the two of you don't see eye to eye. Also, I don't see selling or "gifting" the horse as an option that you need to consider right now. Within the next year you will know where you are going in life and can get back to riding your horse. If you sell him then you may never have that opportunity.
        10-08-2013, 08:16 PM
    If you are at a stable with those kind of fees my guess is she was going to make $$ by charging the rider to use your horse, along with trailering fees and supervision at the show. Who knows she maybe getting lease money on your horse as it is. Usually when a horse is used for lessons they pay all the expenses on the horse. Like a free lease. Since it is of benefit to you maybe a half lease. But I would want good care over money so it could be hard midstream to change the agreement at this point. Hopefully you are not paying for shoes? My guess is if he wasn't being ridden you could go barefoot.

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