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post #21 of 68 Old 06-07-2012, 09:34 PM
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abuse can be a simple as .. bumping a horses teeth with the bit when trying to bridle, as I recently saw someone do to a horse that is now mine. Bumped that bit onto his teeth more than once, I went SAID This is not how you bridle a horse, DO not ever bump that bit on his teeth again. That would hurt so that is abuse. (she signed the horse over to me )
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post #22 of 68 Old 06-07-2012, 09:41 PM
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abuse can be a simple as .. bumping a horses teeth with the bit when trying to bridle, as I recently saw someone do to a horse that is now mine. Bumped that bit onto his teeth more than once, I went SAID This is not how you bridle a horse, DO not ever bump that bit on his teeth again. That would hurt so that is abuse. (she signed the horse over to me )
This is EXACTLY what we're talking about. Bumping a horse's teeth when you put the bridle on is a far cry from abuse.
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I should have been clearer, I heard the bit hit his teeth. Had she cracked his tooth I would have cracked her. Heard it. AND bumping a horses teeth with the bit is a bad beginner mistake, and if it ever happens at My property again the b is out and not welcome back. How would you like your teeth bumped with a metal bar to the point it makes noise.. IT is ABUSIVE and IGNORANT>
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You'd be hard-pressed to crack a horse's tooth while bitting him. It's nowhere near abuse, it's simply a beginner's mistake or a bit of carelessness. Your horse's life and health are not in danger because someone was a bit rough when bitting him.

If it's happening on your property, sure, you can tell her how you want things done. However, understand that it is NOT abuse.
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Understand this, it is abusive uncalled for treatment of an animal. If its fine with you to bash your horses teeth with a bit , then you are also abusive. There are minor to major forms of abuse. I don't tie my horses with thier heads low or high either.. abusive. It causes them pain .. bashing the teeth can be painful.. therefore abusive. You are entitled to your opinion, but if I saw you do it on my property, I would smack the back of your head. BEcause that would not be abusive either...
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Would I ever intentionally bang the bit agaisnt a horse's teeth? No, it's unnecessary and wouldn't accomplish anything. However, just because a horse feels slight discomfort from it, it does NOT constitute abuse. Watch a few videos of the recent TWH controversy. Go to a local rescue and watch some of the neglected horses that come in on death's doorstep, or the PMU mares, or the horses forgotten in a deceased neighbor's barn for years, practically standing on their fetlocks because of toes that are curled over. THAT is abuse. Abuse is not hitting a horse's teeth against his bit.

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post #27 of 68 Old 06-07-2012, 10:53 PM
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OFFS, are you serious, Stevenson?
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legal definition of cruelty and abuse varying by state but most seem to concur: overwork, tortured, tormented, wounded, physical pain, mental anguish and physical violence. Seriously.
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Teehee. Guess I'm abusing my horse when he "runs into my elbow" when he tries to bite me.

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post #30 of 68 Old 06-07-2012, 11:05 PM
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I'm sorry, but the kind of bull**** definition of "abuse" being applied by your logic is exactly what is creating the issues in the system that cause REAL abuse cases to not be addressed as quickly and fully as possible.
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