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    11-20-2009, 07:57 PM
  #21
Yearling
Supply and demand. A lot of people are willing to pay $80 a class and get a small ribbon and be happy about it. Why would the show staff feel the need to have a big expensive prize when they can give cheaper prizes and still get a lot of entries? I think it's quite clever of them actually, it shows how odd humans are to pay thousands of dollars for a horse, training, and equipment for a ribbon with some writing on it. When I go to shows, the only thing I am anxious to get my hands on is my score and the judge's observations, ribbons and goodies are only a small bonus that are nice but I would still show with the same eagerness if there was no prize.
     
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    11-20-2009, 11:14 PM
  #22
Yearling
I've only shown at a local level, but we get some "nice" prizes here - end of the year shows have a saddle (just a regular saddle... it's not customized or anything) for the top point earner, Champion/Grand Champions get customized wooden tack boxes and a trophy, places 1-6 get ribbons and/or prize money... things like that. And we pay $15 for a whole days' show (with the exception of a few bigger shows held.)
However... I'd have to say that I really prefer the prize money or ribbons. I got a trophy and tack box once (for Bandit's weanling halter class), and a friend of mine has gotten the saddle two years on a row, and they're nice, but the cash goes a lot further than a piece of fabric or metal. I use the tack box a lot -- I actually have two, but I can't remember where the other one came from -- for storage and such.
My friend who got the saddles... she went out and sold them. For a fair price, but the problem with a saddle is that it's just such a personal thing. You have a specific seat size, tree size, and look that you like/need, and chances are, that prize saddle isn't it.
     
    11-24-2009, 05:46 AM
  #23
Yearling
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
they don't hand out the ribbons at AQHA shows. They have them there at the show office but you have to go and get them if you want them. They do give circuit awards and sometimes they give out cups or coupons, buckets and stuff for certain placings but Riley is only 3 and this is my first year showing AQHA so when we got that half point at state fair I was so excited!
That's awesome! Congrates! D isn't registered with any breed associations so I don't get to do APHA or anything. Honestly I am not sure he would have the movement to place in Pleasure or HUS :(.... I'm sure we could kick some butt in showmanship though :P... or so I like to think >.<



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Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Wow, do you really care that much about prizes? No way would I ever complain about a show I went to because of a lack of 'good' (In one persons opinion) prizes.

The bigger things - Big campdrafts etc. you can win big cheques and handmade saddles... but there are like 400 competitors.

For me it has NOTHING to do with the prizes and everything to do with acknowledgement of how well my horse and I are doing and improving. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when a show has gone to the effort of getting grooming products and buckets arranged as prizes, and the riders complain they aren't good enough.

P.S. - I love winning buckets, they are always handy.
I think you misunderstood what I am griping about. I've been to a TON of shows where they give out flat ribbons or nothing at all accept points for the series prize or year end awards etc. I show because I just love getting out there and meeting new people and showing off my dorky horses skillz (when he has them lol). My complaint was that this was a State show and people have been working hard ALL YEAR to compete for the State Champion title and every year they have rocked with prizes (top 5ers got an emborid. Saddle pad (VERY cool IMO) and it just seems like this year they didn't put as much effort into their prizes and the riders did for the show... If that even makes sence?? Plus at a lot of the local shows we have fairly poor attendance... Maybe 25ish to 30 people?? Hence why I was thinking the Jackpot classes to win monies might get more people to come out and ride. As far as buckets go I am all for them but seriously I have about 15 buckets now and one horse LOL. I'm going to be giving some away for x-mas this year lol. I don't need 15 buckets with only one horse
     
    11-24-2009, 05:50 AM
  #24
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by RubaiyateBandit    
I've only shown at a local level, but we get some "nice" prizes here - end of the year shows have a saddle (just a regular saddle... it's not customized or anything) for the top point earner, Champion/Grand Champions get customized wooden tack boxes and a trophy, places 1-6 get ribbons and/or prize money... things like that. And we pay $15 for a whole days' show (with the exception of a few bigger shows held.)
However... I'd have to say that I really prefer the prize money or ribbons. I got a trophy and tack box once (for Bandit's weanling halter class), and a friend of mine has gotten the saddle two years on a row, and they're nice, but the cash goes a lot further than a piece of fabric or metal. I use the tack box a lot -- I actually have two, but I can't remember where the other one came from -- for storage and such.
My friend who got the saddles... she went out and sold them. For a fair price, but the problem with a saddle is that it's just such a personal thing. You have a specific seat size, tree size, and look that you like/need, and chances are, that prize saddle isn't it.
Yeah. I will see series that offer saddles and can't help but think 'I doubt that saddle will be my seat size and even if it is it probably won't fit my horse' It's nice being able to re-sell em though lol. That's pretty cool giving out tack boxes! :P
     
    11-24-2009, 02:18 PM
  #25
Trained
I agree I personally like my trophies and plaques. They are something you will always have. I also tend to like those big fat paychecks too.

     
    11-24-2009, 02:23 PM
  #26
Trained
All I want is $$$. I have honestly 20 coolers from showing and a bunch of ribbons and a whole bunch of other crap. I don't need anything else that says "Champion" on it.
I show dressage, a normal 3 day show for me will be about $500-$600 in entries, $200-$400 in trailering, $300 in coaching and money lost from not working.
At one show they gave $50 for every first place ribbon given out which was AWESOME. There was no prize money for champions, just prizes. I would have preferred $100 for champions and $75 for reserve rather than a prize or ribbon.
     
    11-24-2009, 02:36 PM
  #27
Trained
What I do not get is why these shows do not jackpot the classes. I can understand why you might not have added money but at least jackpot the classes. If you are paying $15/class even with 50%-60% retained have a nice jackpot class.

I personally want the trophy's and money but showing reiners I suppose I am spoiled as I normally get both.
     
    11-24-2009, 03:06 PM
  #28
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dartanion    
and it just seems like this year they didn't put as much effort into their prizes and the riders did for the show... If that even makes sence??
I would think that would be the correct way. The riders should put more work into the show than the show management should put into the prizes.


I do the hunter thing and we most certainly do not get prizes and we pay lots of money so I guess I miss the whole 'we need prizes' thing.


I can see how any prize you would give out (other than cash) would be annoying to some people. Kevin did not like t-shirts you think they would be great is a perfect example. I personally think a bucket full of goodies (brushes, etc) would be great. You can never have too many buckets around and heck, brushes seem to grow legs.
     
    11-24-2009, 03:46 PM
  #29
Trained
I agree that you are never going to satify everyone with the prizes at a show.

It also comes down to what animal you are showing too.

I not only show horses but I also show my dogs. Now for Libby my Corgi Ribbons are great. She is not a toy playing type of dog. SO winning toys would not do it for her.

Now Abby she loves her toys. Still have the first toy she ever one still sitting in her toy basket. However I still like it when she gets ribbons. Makes it fun to display them in my office with all the other ribbons and trophies.





I think the big thing is do not do the same thing every years as far as prizes go. I know one local show here gives out the same thing every year. You can only use so many of one thing.
     
    11-25-2009, 01:54 PM
  #30
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
All I want is $$$. I have honestly 20 coolers from showing and a bunch of ribbons and a whole bunch of other crap. I don't need anything else that says "Champion" on it.
I show dressage, a normal 3 day show for me will be about $500-$600 in entries, $200-$400 in trailering, $300 in coaching and money lost from not working.
At one show they gave $50 for every first place ribbon given out which was AWESOME. There was no prize money for champions, just prizes. I would have preferred $100 for champions and $75 for reserve rather than a prize or ribbon.
Lol, Yeah I am trying to see if we can get some local businesses to sponsore a Jackpot class or two. I believe the list I made up has.... a Halter Jackpot, English Pleasure w/t, English Pleasure, Hunter Hack, Western Pleasure w/j, Western Pleasure, I want to say reining and trail but I could be wrong. We are charging about $6.00/class (not sure if we should charge more for the Jackpots or not) and I was thinking:
1st - $20.00
2nd - $15.00
3rd - $10.00
4th - $5.00
5th - Ribbon
6th - Ribbon

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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    

I personally want the trophy's and money but showing reiners I suppose I am spoiled as I normally get both.
U spoiled brat you!
     

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