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    07-10-2012, 04:00 PM
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Foal
Question Showing in the wrong division.

Has anyone had this problem at local schooling shows? I can't imagine it being a problem at a rated show.

In a couple show circuits I've shown in there have been a few people riding horses for people that couldn't be there or just showing in that division trying to get by with it. For example, a girl who was a freshman in college and on the riding team was riding in Long Sturrip. Make any kind of sense? Didn't think so. Also, another girl who had moved up to Pony Hunter and won Champion in that division and had been showing well over 4 years rode in a few shows for a kid that was away at school. He won Champion due to her help, not too fair to the Reserve Champion who would have been Champion.

Schooling show or not, you're paying money to show. No matter the level, it should be done fairly.

This keeps happening and the people doing it try to justify or play stupid. Oh and we're the bad guys for bringing it to show management's attention.
     
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    07-10-2012, 04:17 PM
  #2
Foal
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Originally Posted by LoveMyGoGo    
Has anyone had this problem at local schooling shows? I can't imagine it being a problem at a rated show.

In a couple show circuits I've shown in there have been a few people riding horses for people that couldn't be there or just showing in that division trying to get by with it. For example, a girl who was a freshman in college and on the riding team was riding in Long Sturrip. Make any kind of sense? Didn't think so. Also, another girl who had moved up to Pony Hunter and won Champion in that division and had been showing well over 4 years rode in a few shows for a kid that was away at school. He won Champion due to her help, not too fair to the Reserve Champion who would have been Champion.

Schooling show or not, you're paying money to show. No matter the level, it should be done fairly.

This keeps happening and the people doing it try to justify or play stupid. Oh and we're the bad guys for bringing it to show management's attention.
see it happen all the time.
     
    07-11-2012, 07:59 PM
  #3
Weanling
Just because someone shows on their college's riding team doesn't mean they are jumping perfect 3 foot courses. There are many different levels. That person could have very well been riding at the Long Stirrup level. I also don't get why you object to other people showing someone else's horse. This last weekend I had someone show my horse and my friend showed 5 different horses for different owners. As long as the rider and horse fit within the limits of the class qualifications there shouldn't be a problem.
     
    07-11-2012, 09:17 PM
  #4
Foal
She does jump 3 ft courses and is past her first four years of showing. I quess you sound sour because you didn't get their entire show history. The entire point was people showing in divisions they aren't suppose to be in..I didn't know you needed their entire show history. People showing other horses for people is fine, as long as they're allowed in that division. People don't pay a lot of money to show in the correct division just to have someone who is not suppose to be in their division showing against them.
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    07-11-2012, 09:32 PM
  #5
Weanling
Oh I totally agree that people shouldn't be showing in divisions that they are over qualified for. I guess the way I read what you posted was a little different than you intended.
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    07-11-2012, 10:12 PM
  #6
Foal
I was at work and couldn't put every detail. Yeah the entire point was they aren't suppose to be in there, know they aren't, and still do it. I guess I should have been more clear.
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    07-12-2012, 07:44 AM
  #7
Weanling
One word: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL! Jk

Check the rule books, they actually may be able to show in those dipending on what horse their on exc.

But I see it all the time at b shows and some a is professionals ride ( professional here is any person making money, USA I believe a professional is anyone making more than 10k a year) they ride clients horses and just clean up due to their many many years of experience and ability.
     
    07-12-2012, 11:03 AM
  #8
Banned
There are some elements of riders needing to show at a lower level though, when they are bringing on new horses.
     
    07-12-2012, 02:50 PM
  #9
Foal
You do realize Long Stirrup is meant for RIDERS in their first 4 (maybe 5) years of showing, right? There are rules for each show, you go by those or get called out on it. They make divisions for young or just learning horses (ie Baby Green) and if you're going in a class to give your horse experience then you really shouldn't go in a class against new riders who are supposed to be in that division..go unjudged if you want to get in an earlier division early in the day. People in those lower divisions are still learning so when you have someone who shouldn't be in there and they beat the less experience, it's just low and sad.
     
    07-15-2012, 05:30 PM
  #10
Foal
I don't think it's quite fair, but some will do whatever they can to get a ribbon.
     

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