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  • Show horses and poor riding
  • Under 10,000 dollar horses

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    07-28-2012, 04:32 PM
  #11
Green Broke
There is alot of grey area around buying according to your level of riding. I think it all depends on what you want to do and how well you want to do. For example, I know a girl who is a very green rider who's mother spent 45k on a older several time world champion horse. She wants to win big on the QH circuit and is willing to spend the money to get there. Then there are the trainers who will spend 20-50k on a yearling based on potential and train it themselves.
     
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    07-28-2012, 04:42 PM
  #12
Trained
You could buy me Totilas and I would still suck.

You can't totally buy success in the equine world, because the horse is only half of the partnership, and rider ability certainly comes into play. This is a quote from another board, discussing the best horse you have ever ridden

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I swear if he could speak he'd have said something like, "Okay, I have no idea what you want so let's do this alphabetically. Canter? No? Passage? No? Piaffe? No? Okay, I got nothing."
Kind of summed it up for me
     
    07-28-2012, 04:50 PM
  #13
Yearling
The horse world is just as judgmental of a 30,000 dollar horse as it is a 500 dollar horse, really. But it's true that you get what you pay for- sometimes someone will luck out, but the rule stands. Quality is money. And if you have the money that you earned, you have the right to spend it how you want.

If a girl rides a top-level horse in a beginner's class, and the only reason she wins is because of the horse, I can see being angry. But if she won because she's a good rider, get over it. This "Slighted Underdog" mentality of a lot of equestrians grates on my nerves... I'm not saying judges can't be biased, and I'm not saying you can't be a good rider if your horse is under 10,000 dollars- but if the rider is truly good, look past your jealousy or your prejudices and acknowledge that. An expensive horse doesn't change talent or hard work, and neither does an inexpensive horse. The horse world is incredibly biased and judgmental...

And OT, but 5 years old, on a 30,000 dollar horse, riding 1-D barrels? I wouldn't care how talented my kid was, 5 is way too young in my eyes to even be on their own- if it's talent, it's not going anywhere and they can wait until they're 7. Lol.
     
    07-28-2012, 04:56 PM
  #14
Started
I guess what frustrates me is when people without great ability go spend a fortune on a fantastic horse, and when they don't end up winning heaps of trophies they blame the horse. I've seen too many bratty, spoiled teenage girls (don't know many male riders) take out their frustration born from their lack of ability on their poor horse.

Personally I don't think I'd want someone to give me a top horse. I prefer to make the best of a horse with limited potential, I feel as if I've achieved more as there's no way I'm good enough to ride a champion dressage horse at anything more than intermediate level anyway...
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    07-28-2012, 05:54 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by EvilHorseOfDoom    
I guess what frustrates me is when people without great ability go spend a fortune on a fantastic horse, and when they don't end up winning heaps of trophies they blame the horse....
Indeed. My farrier was fired by a woman who had gone thru a dozen horses in 3 years. She'd buy them and then discover they had problems, then sell them and buy another. On his last visit, the farrier got fed up with the tale of her latest 'bad horse', and replied, "Maybe it is the rider who sucks donkey dicks..." Needless to say, he didn't stay long after THAT comment!

Regarding the theme of the thread:

If you want to compete at top levels, you either need money or so much talent that someone with money notices you. But I just got off another forum where a guy posted that I was "lucky" to be able to own horses in this economy. I replied that I spent 30 years being careful with my money, and that was why I was 'lucky'.

Like a lot of horse owners, particularly those of us who came to it late in life, I feel 'lucky' to own and ride horses. 8 months after we got him, my free BLM mustang pony has figured out to go to his bucket at feed time instead of following me around the corral. I've gotten to know him too, so after dumping pellets in his bucket, I let him check the 3 buckets I take out with me and see that truly ALL the remaining pellets had gone into his bucket. As he started gobbling his food, I scratched his back and called him a fat little hobbit pony. He sighed and continued eating. As I left, I swear he turned and winked at me. THAT is the sort of thing that, to me, makes me 'lucky', and tells me I'm as happy as if he was a $500,000 master who can piaffe and poof and do all those other amazing things.

I'm not jealous of someone with a $500,000 horse. I couldn't compete as a rider in anything anyways, and it isn't what I find rewarding about horses. What thrills me are those moments when a member of another, very different species makes the effort to connect with me.

Give things your best shot, but be glad your life includes horses. Over time, I'm betting it is the horses that you will remember.

My 5'2" wife on our hobbit pony:

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    07-28-2012, 06:29 PM
  #16
Yearling
BSMS, out of curiosity, is that Catalina State Park? It looks like the trail to the falls.
     
    07-28-2012, 06:49 PM
  #17
Trained
No, it is SE of Tucson, a few miles west of Highway 83. The Catalinas are very faintly visible in the background. My mare is still way too spooky to handle trailering her someplace like Catalina State Park. Maybe in a few more years...sigh.
     
    07-28-2012, 07:09 PM
  #18
Yearling
Ah. Now that I look harder, it's not quite the same... Close enough to make me miss it, though- haven't been there in a while. :( Sorry for getting off topic, lol.
     

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