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Would you tell on someone who may be cheating?

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#1 ·
At our last horse show I seen a young girl stick a syringe in her horses mouth. I got a look at the bottle and it appears to be a calming agent. I dont think calming agents are legal to use in the show ring. i could be wrong.

Cinny the horse was on Smartcalm but 3 months before showtime we stopped giving it to him.

Would you tell on someone that you seen cheating?
 
#2 ·
If they did testing through random urine collection, yes. If it's a smaller show, no as it's your word against theirs. Just creates drama.
 
#3 ·
Go ask whoever is in the show office. I know buting for our area is not legal unless you actally go ahead of time and TELL them you are buting and WHY you are doing it. They will then decide if it is legal. I do not believe calming agent is illegal but I could be wrong.
 
#4 ·
you cant report someone for something you believe, or think , or coulda , maybe mighta been, but yes if You KNOW it is against the rules, an you KNOW you saw it, and YOU know 100 percent without a doubt what happened and know the applicable rules you should report it. Hover that doesnt seem to be the case here.
 
#7 ·
it wouldnt matter to me if it was a local show or the Olympics. The published rules are the published rules. But you need to know what those rules are, and know 100 percent that the rule was broken. Remember, all that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 
#11 ·
Probably not. I see a lot of cheating - verging on animal abuse - by a lot of the big name pleasure trainers at shows. The stewards turn a blind eye to these trainers because they make the big bucks and help fund the shows. I've had friends who went to tell stewards and later were approached by that trainer who threatened to harm their horse or slash their trailer tires... It's all very sad, but it's a difficult problem to combat. Unless you have a physical videotape of something going on, I wouldn't say anything. I would just ride knowing that you do the right thing and that karma will get them.
 
#12 ·
At the time, if you KNOW the rules (not an I don't think), yes.

Several days later because you are angry about the placings at said show, no.

Big difference between turning someone in because you know what they did was wrong and being a whiny tattletale whose running around trying to find reasons to discredit someone else because you didn't get what you wanted.
 
#14 ·
bute is legal for aqha and apha shows in allowable doses. Unless you know exactly what was given and how much and why and if it was cleared by staff, there isn't really anything to report as fact - just speculation.
 
#16 ·
Nope. I'm a believer in what goes around comes around. And they do testing at recognized shows- they have paid people who do this. I've seen people use IM and IV drugs then go in a class. In Canada you can get fined $750.00 - $15,000.00 AND up to 2 years ban for you AND your trainer dipending on what the drug is. And every rider and trainer is well aware of this already. I would never drug a horse and would never run off and tattle on someone. Not my job and its and none of my business what they do with their horses...
 
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