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post #11 of 18 Old 04-29-2014, 03:20 PM
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I have a somewhat similar bit, though my shanks curve a little more. Most horses have liked it, so it remains one of several options in my bit collection.

There are definitely bits which offer more finesse for schooling/training, but I personally felt it was a fairly "safe" or mild bit to try out new horses or when giving lessons to young/new riders - gives a little leverage without a port.
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Most of the horses I ride prefer a roller. I'm usually riding in a snaffle, just because the majority of horses I'm working with are green. I plan on bringing my mare up in a curb, but she's not ready for the transition yet. She doesn't like a roller, so she is in a regular snaffle and will go into a bit like the one below when we're ready for that.
Just as aside, this isn't really the curb bit I'll be starting her in, it will be more like this, I just ran out of edit time and grabbed the wrong picture.:
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Anyway, back on topic for me. I'm doing some research now that I'm home for a while.

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I am playing with one in my hands right now. If you used an opening rein it will do one of two things:

1) swivel the whole shank so that the purchase gets turned and presses into the horses face and at the same time removes any slack out of the curb strap which then transfers pressure to the opposite side of the horses head , or:

2) flat out lifts the bottom of the shank out to the right which causes the purchase to dig into the side of the horses cheek...
I cannot get it to do either. Not on a horse.

If you use an opening rein, it barely moves the shank at all. It does not cause the purchase to dig in - not at all. The purchase is not on a swivel after all. One would have to twist the entire bit with a lot of force to shove the purchase into the horse's head. It does not remove any slack out of the curb strap.

These photos were taken in the last 15 minutes, using the exact bit I showed on Mia...who was quite patient about it all...but then, I had promised her hay pellets when we were done:







The last couple were pulling at an unrealistic angle since my arms are not long enough to get a 75 deg angle on the pull. In all 3, she was turning her head in response to the pressure, so I had to snap the picture quickly and hope for the best. The bridle was not perfectly adjusted since I normally use that bit now with Cowboy, who is a 13 hand pony. I let it out a few holes and figured it wouldn't matter for 5 minutes.

The purchase does not dig in. Indeed, the leather loop holding the bit to the bridle presses in more than the purchase does, even at a rest. Nor does the curb strap tighten, although that curb strap is set too loose for Mia...but no, it was not tightening. An opening rein is an OPENING, not a tug of war. An opening rein is done with fingers applying any pressure, if needed, not arms fighting with the horse. However, as you do pull, it tends to slide the bit thru the mouth far more than it twists the purchase and digs into the head. If any thing, it seems to pull the purchase AWAY.

A single joint curb bit will never be my favorite if only because it has no rollers or rings for my horse to play with. But I cannot recreate the effects you describe, and my horse isn't the only one that moves fine in one.

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It's our every day bit. Before shows I start schooling in a medium port though. I would imagine it's a good transition bit, you get good direct rein action.
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post #15 of 18 Old 04-29-2014, 04:28 PM
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This is the bit I use. It's a pain because it's made of sweet iron so I keep having to replace them. I should just get one that isn't.

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It all depends on the horse, and the rider too. It is what you prefer, your skills, how the horse responds, and what you are doing with it, reason why there is a gazillion or more bits. I like the dogbone for two handed schooling, it really sucks for neck reining, IMO.
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I cannot get it to do either. Not on a horse.







Well I am not surprised since you don't have anything adjusted to fit the horse properly.
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post #18 of 18 Old 05-01-2014, 12:34 PM
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One of our boarders in the UK hunted her horse in a very similar bit to the one the OP shows for about 12 years - riding typical english style with direct reining, he went OK in it though she claimed it was the only thing she could stop him in I never needed anything more than a plain snaffle on him and neither did my boss' niece who was a skinny 14 year old at the time
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