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post #11 of 14 Old 08-09-2013, 11:03 PM
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Like Sorrelhorse said, it's not a harsh bit at all. Due to the length of the shanks and where the mouth is located on them, it's got about the same pressure ratio as a regular snaffle. The only difference is that this bit will also apply pressure to the chin and the poll, giving you a bit of "lift and tuck" on a properly trained horse.

If she's flinging her head, my first stop would be the dentist to make sure her teeth aren't bothering her. After that, I would assume it is likely a training issue. Some horses who are ridden on short reins or who are cued too harshly come to hate mouth pressure...so they fling their head to alleviate it.

I see no reason why she wouldn't ride just as well in a regular old snaffle....though if it was me, I'd probably put her in something with a more solid mouth like a myler type and see if she'd start carrying the bit herself. That would help with the head-flinging.
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post #12 of 14 Old 08-09-2013, 11:11 PM
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I don't think it is particularly harsh. It might be a bit confusing to her though. Start with the teeth then I would go back to a simple snaffle or bosal if you still have problems.

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post #13 of 14 Old 08-09-2013, 11:15 PM
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FWIW, my guy did a lot of head tossing with any rein pressure in a single jointed mouth piece (what he was ridden in where I bought him) that went away completely and nearly instantly when I switched to a double jointed mouth piece. Worth a shot IMO anyway. Some horses mouths and single jointed bits just don't seem to go well together, though of course, it can be a training issue too.
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post #14 of 14 Old 08-09-2013, 11:39 PM
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A thick mouthpiece isn't a milder bit than a thinner one. It can be, or not. For a long time, I thought my mare disliked 3 piece mouthpieces. But I've recently been riding her in this:





Based on a dozen rides or so, she seems very content in it. Looking back, the french link snaffles I own have thick mouthpieces. This one is a leveraged bit, but the mouthpieces are thin and shaped to provide room for her tongue. I may clip my reins to the center ring tomorrow, and see how she responds to it as a snaffle bit.

Also, FWIW, when I first tried this bit, she chomped and fiddled with it. I lowered it a hole, and it was even worse. I tightened it a hole, and things got better. Tightened another hole, and she stopped playing with it other than to sometimes roll the copper roller. So it seems the height in the mouth can also affect how well the horse responds to the bit.
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