I actually don't really like martingales, because well they do build up to depend on it , and I do as well . I am using one of my trainers bits with a copper roller just like the picture that luvs2ride1979
showed me . He does respond to seat VERY well . So im trying to use the lightest aides on his mouth, and make him DEPEND on my seat and legs .
He isnt showing any responses to pain . We have had the vet look at his teeth and he has excellent teeth , and we've had him floated .
But thanks you guys ! I'll let you all know how he is with the copper roller !
I just HATE using harsh bits . He's the type of horse that lets you know when you're messing with his mouth and he doesnt like his mouth being pulled on and all . So that's a good thing; to me . Because once you start depending on the rein and bit to slow and stop your horse . You TOTALLY forget your legs and seat are the best things to use!