Firstly - This thread is oooold. The most recent post except for the last two is from March 2009 - I daresay the issue has been resolved.
Oh! Wondered why I didn't remember the thread! I just got an email that there was a reply, so went to thread without looking at dates!
Secondly - I have NEVER stepped up to a harsher bit on any of my horses, and in no way think a bit is a shortcut that will replace good training and a healthy happy horse. I think I put more effort in that most into ensuring my horses are happy...
Not sure that you do disagree with me so much WS, or whether it was just the way I managed to put it
. The subject is something that I(obviously
) feel very strongly about, so perhaps came across that I was having a go at you &/or everyone, tho I tried to only say what I meant clearly without being particular(except about the 'bored of same bits' comment. I quoted that bit from you WS because, as I said, I didn't understand what you thought was harsh, especially as I had an idea that you have similar opinions to me on the matter. I wasn't in the least picking on you. Or OP for that matter, just trying to emphasise an alternative attitude/opinion.
I have never reccomended a harsher bit to anybody on this forum and never will. ...However - The OP made clear through successive posts that she HAS checked for pain, she has taken this horse back to basics, etc. ..... Being a rider who has never had the means to ride under a trainer and having to self-educate,...
Yes, I realise you wouldn't suggest a 'harsher' bit & that the OP didn't literally ask for this either. But the reason for her questions illustrated that she wanted a device to stop her horse instantly, as the existing bit didn't. That to me says that regardless what she imagines, what she's really asking for is a stronger bit. So my post was attempting to emphasise the need for continuing to look for better alternatives & not settling for mechanics.
I appreciate she was given (some, but)little good advice & had tried lots already. I should have acknowledged what she had done so far, which I agree was good. Sorry OP! I am also one who has had very little opportunity/means to get help from professionals, so appreciate that may be a lack of option.
Anyway, hope that's made it a little clearer than mud! As this is also old hat, I sincerely hope you've now resolved the problems well OP and are onto a good thing with your horse, whether you have a similar opinion to me or not