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    11-08-2010, 02:34 AM
  #11
Yearling
^^ Thank you! That sounds like a good hackamore. Do you just attach a regular headstall to it?
Thanks!

Vivache - Her saddle fits her perfectly, and she is great when riding with the halter in the saddle. Her bridle fits her fine as well, and she doesn't act like she's in pain when it's on. I can just tell that she doesn't enjoy it. I can't blame her.. I wouldn't really enjoy a bar of metal in my moth, getting pulled on.
Her teeth are due in spring as well, I don't think there is anything wrong with her physically.
Thanks! :)
     
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    11-08-2010, 06:44 AM
  #12
Yearling
I find that fitting a hackamore of this type or a Little S needs a headstall with shorter cheekpieces, and nice firm leather, maybe double thickness. Some headstalls only have a cheek adjustment buckle on one side, better to have one that adjusts on both sides.

You can't necessarily just go down to a cob size either because the browband needs to be long enough to help keep the cheeks out of the eyes.

The nosebands need breaking in, at first they are stiff and too "straight" which causes a pulling outward away from the face and forward - again into the eyes. Oil it, bend it, flex it, limber it, get it wet and form it, if it is a nylon rope noseband warm it up with a hairdryer and form it and maybe cover it with vetwrap. Terry Myers uses a piece of flannel from a shirt on the nosebands of his sidepulls.

If you and your horse work well together with a hackamore, it is worth the trouble to fit it well.


PS. A rope hackamore with a properly tied mecate IS a bosal.
     
    11-08-2010, 01:21 PM
  #13
Yearling
Yes horselover you just attach it to the cheekpieces of a regular bridle, jsut like you'd attach a bit.

Its a little picture but you get the idea. You will need to put it up a few holes from what you normally have it with the bit.
     
    11-08-2010, 03:26 PM
  #14
Foal
I use hackamores on most my horses, espically in the cold winters. The ones I prefer is the one Beau Baby has a picture of. I also use the braided nose one but I find the shanks are too long and can be very severe. I never let beginners ride with a hackamore as it is a severe piece of equipment. I found it was much more severe than a jointed snaffle but the horses were more relaxed and could snack on our trail rides.
     
    11-08-2010, 03:39 PM
  #15
Green Broke
Hackamores are only allowed in Jumpers and Cross Country events; both are aiken to the western world's "speed events" and are judged on time and jumps cleared. If the OP doesn't want to show her horse in speed western events, then it's not likely her horse is suitable for these English events either.

Hunter or Hunter Under Saddles classes and Dressage both require a bit. Hunter classes are the most common "English" events in open or breed shows that combine multiple disciplines. All I have ever seen or attended require an approved bit, at schooling or rated shows. If a rider uses non-approved tack, they may be disqualified from the class or not placed in the ribbons.

OP: If you want to show your horse, you need to figure out why your horse is reacting poorly to your bit(s). Have your vet check her teeth. Have a trainer watch you ride and ride your horse as well. Have someone video you riding your horse with a bit. If her teeth are fine and your bit handling skills are adequate, then you need to find someone you can borrow some different bits from and try a bunch out until you find one that your horse likes.

If you can't seem to find any your horse likes, then I would consider finding a new trainer, preferably a Dressage trainer if you're looking at riding English, or a Reining trainer if you're going western. Both of these types of trainers generally have a better understanding of bit types, uses, and mechanics.

I would also seek a second opinion on your horse's teeth. Have any wolf teeth pulled.
     
    11-08-2010, 04:42 PM
  #16
Trained
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A bit is just something the rider uses when they can't control them without.
I don't see any valid reason to have added this comment - Wanting to ride in a hackamore is absolutely fine, there is no need to insult the 99% of people on this forum who choose to use bits. For your information, I ride all my horses in bits, but can also ride them all in a halter, and can ride my show horse sans bridle completely, nothing on his head.

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Any hackamore with shanks is similar to a bit with shanks - They should not be used to direct rein, neck rein only. That leaves you with sidepulls and cross under options if you want one for english.
     
    11-08-2010, 04:49 PM
  #17
Yearling
Yea wildspot I gotta agree. That comment about riders with bits was quite uncalled for. I use a bit because my sport says its illegal to use a hackamore for part of it. Aside from the fact that i've always used a bit and my horse responds well to a simple french link snaffle. My horse however HATES hackamores. Does that mean that I can't control my horse without it? No it does not.
     
    11-08-2010, 05:32 PM
  #18
Started
Hmm...don't know about the showing in them.

But I had a little arab mare that tried to constantly touch the sky with her nose...my trainer put her in a bosal with horsehair reins and it made all the difference. She was like a different horse!

But once she got better/calmer...we switched her back to a sprenger snaffle...
     
    11-08-2010, 07:09 PM
  #19
Weanling
I say find what works best for you and your horse. As for showing it depends on the show, just ask for a copy of their rule book and you should be just fine. Lots of good advice given here.
     
    11-08-2010, 10:51 PM
  #20
Yearling
Wild Spot - I did not mean to offend anyone. I know tons and tons of people who use bits to control their crazy high strung horses.
A bit is something they invented to control the horse and tune up riding cues.
But all the things done in a bit, can as well be done without.
I never said it was bad or wrong to ride with a bit, but it's my opinion that you really don't need a bit, if you're willing to work hard.. even with the hardest horse.

Thanks to everyone! The vet is coming in spring, and he was just out... I can't afford to pay another couple hundred dollars just to see if she needs her teeth done. That doesn't even include the cost of her teeth getting done.

I think I will be getting the hackamore on the link. It seems like a few of you like it.

I rode english with her today, english saddle and rope halter. We need to work on that a bit more, as she is amazing at neck reining. But, english you can't neck rein. So, we will be working on 2 hand with a rope halter.

I think the english saddle is fitting her wrong as well... she had her ears pinned and tried to buck a couple times. She does that every once in awhile when she's being cranky.. but I'm not sure. She never had a problem with that saddle before, but then again I've only used it about 4-5 times.
     

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