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        12-09-2013, 06:36 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    The purchase on the bit I'm using does bend outwards a bit. I don't really know of anyone who does metal work in my area that would be able to bend it. Should I just try and do it myself and see how it goes? Or should I look at a different bit? I've been looking at this one for a while, would I run into the same problems as the first one? 5" Francois Gauthier Collection Antique Low Port Hinged Futurity Bit

    Also here you can see the bend purchase on my bit.
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        12-09-2013, 09:46 PM
      #12
    Super Moderator
    I know that smrobs, one of our more experienced members, uses a bit very much like that last posted one, and swears by it.
         
        12-09-2013, 11:01 PM
      #13
    Showing
    It is possible that you could put your bit in a vise and try to bend the rings out a bit with a hammer, but where you run into problems is making sure that you have the vise in the right place so that you aren't bending the shank and impeding the swivel motion. If I was doing it, I'd put the vise where it was covering the bottom part of the ring as pictured below. That way, you'd only be bending the upper portion of the ring and not effecting the actual shank at all.

    As for the FG futurity bit you've been looking at, that's a very nice bit. Tiny was right, I have one and I love it and it would likely fix your problem as the mouth on it measures a true 5.5" instead of 5". That gives you an extra 1/4" of leeway on each side of her head.
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        12-10-2013, 04:07 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    very interesting. I would think it would make that very inexpensive bit become very expensive.

    I did not realize how most western bits do NOT have a slightly curved purchase. I learned something.

    Here is one that seems to have some outward curve to the purchase


    45$

    This bit shows, what I have coined, a "spayed" purchase. The upper most part of the purchase is splayed or opened to accomodate a QHs head (or any head that bears a smaller mouth with wide set facial bones). I ike these types of bits because I don't have to do the work in opening or splaying the purchase. The bit shown is also set in a "T' tube to allow the shanks to swivel. The splaying or opening of the purchase was probably done mechanicaly.
         
        12-10-2013, 04:15 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ThunderingHooves    
    The purchase on the bit I'm using does bend outwards a bit. I don't really know of anyone who does metal work in my area that would be able to bend it. Should I just try and do it myself and see how it goes? Or should I look at a different bit? I've been looking at this one for a while, would I run into the same problems as the first one? 5" Francois Gauthier Collection Antique Low Port Hinged Futurity Bit

    Also here you can see the bend purchase on my bit.
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    It has very little "splayed" purchases. If you feel adventersome or confident enough you can attempt to open the purchases yourself. As someone mention before (not sure who) use a vise to set the shank itself (I use a "pony" vise but any vise should work). You may have to use two vises together side by side one to hold the shank and one to hold at the "T' joint to keep it from sliding. You might get away with a pair of vise grips and a freind to hold them at the "T" swivel section and steady them while you hammer out the purchase part (use a mallet, its gentler on your hand, less vibration and gentler on the metal). Be smart about it and be carefull.

    The Francois Gauthier you have shown bit is a very nice bit. It is similar to a "poquito" bit I had except mine was not hinged. This one also seems to have shorter shanks and a shorter purchase wich means less torque is going to be placed on the poll and curb.
         
        12-27-2013, 01:37 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    So here is an update. I recently went ahead and got this bit. I received it today and went ahead and tried it on Angel. It fits better than my original one I have. Only thing is I think it might still be a tad to small. I can just barely fit one finger between each cheek. I honestly don't know quite how to fit this. Does this seems like it fits or does it sound like it's still a little too narrow? I can get some pictures tomorrow.

    Bit I just bought:
    Western SS Low Port Futurity Bit - Horse.com
         
        12-27-2013, 05:12 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Just curious as to why you didn't go with that done smrobs recommended? I also have one and LOVE it, as do several people I ride with. You now have one with a shorter shank, is that purposeful? Anyway-get pics-my guess is it is OK.
         
        12-27-2013, 12:26 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I thought maybe this would be similar to the name brand and since I'm on a tight budget, and this is in my price range, I thought I would give it a shot.
         
        12-27-2013, 08:20 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    So I went out to get the pictures and realized I didn't quite know exactly which angels I needed. So I just got this for now. If it isn't good enough, how should I take the pictures?


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        12-27-2013, 10:02 PM
      #20
    Foal
    I've been looking and debating on this bit for my mare. Now after all of what you all said I'm going to buy it. :)
         

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