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    05-19-2011, 12:27 PM
Green Broke
Bit Help, Low Pallet, small mouthed horse.

I will try to make this long story as short as possible, bear with me, please.

In January I adopted a 16 year old arabian gelding. He has had issues in his past that make him very sensitive about bits (and saddles, but that problem is finally solved!). He had a mouth injury due to a bit when he was younger. He also has a low pallet and a small mouth in general.

Every time I try a bit, regardless of the type (I have run the gamut from sweet iron snaffles to the TTouch training bit, to a low ported name it I have probably tried it) and he just does NOT like them. It is a huge ordeal/struggle to get him to even take a bit, and once he has it in his mouth, he obsesses about it. He chomps, chews, drops his head and pulls, etc. It is very annoying and he cant' focus on anything else, even when lunging/riding.
I am working with a saddle fitter...she wants to try a kimberwick next. She also dropped off a hackamore to try (mechanical).

My horse's previous owner said he's always had bit issues, and she used a Billy Allen on him (I tried one). She offered to sell it to me but I haven't heard from her in a few weeks now.

I am extremely frustrated with the situation.
I am considering trying him in a bitless bridle or the hackamore.

Does anyone else have a similar situation with their horse?
Any suggestions.

His previous owner thinks a bitless bridle is a bad idea because "He needs brakes."
The few times I've been able to ride him (since I found him a perfectly fitting saddle...which was another ordeal) he was fine and gentle, just absolutely obsessed with the bit.

Thanks so much for any help!!
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    05-19-2011, 12:29 PM
Green Broke
Here is a pic showing how small the corners of his mouth are.
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    05-19-2011, 12:32 PM
Wow. I don't have any suggestions... But that's the smallest couners I've seen on a horse that size. O.O
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    05-19-2011, 12:33 PM
Green Broke
Hehe, I know. He's a big guy too! It's weird.
He's a sweetheart though...maybe we'll just have to suck it up and skip a bit.
    05-19-2011, 12:40 PM
Hmm, looking at that picture, it makes me wonder how close the corners of his mouth are to the backs of his front teeth. There may not be enough room for a bit to fit in there and not bang his teeth without pulling him up into a joker grin.

Does he neck rein or do you need to direct rein him?
    05-19-2011, 12:43 PM
Green Broke
I wondered if the teeth were interfering too, smrobs.

Unfortunately he does not know how to neck rein, but he is a pretty quick study about most things. :)
    05-19-2011, 12:44 PM
He does have a tiny little mouth, hu?
    05-19-2011, 01:04 PM
I'm not sure that I would use the mechanical hack then. They can get pretty frustrating and confusing when you try to direct rein in them.

Mmmm, now I'm going to have to go out and browse .

Maybe one of those sidepulls with the doubled lariat nosebands. That way, you have the option for a little bit of bite should you need it.

Someday, when I have some money to burn, I am going to get one of these.
4 Plait Soft Rope Hackamore w/Flat Reins | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...

Though they also come in a hard rope form, which is similar to a bosal but with more bite.
4 Plait Hard Rope Hackamore w/Flat Rein | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...

I have found that one cheaper, but haven't been able to find the softer one.
Mustang Lariat Noseband Breaking Hackamore -
    05-19-2011, 01:31 PM
After some searching, I found something very similar to what Abby has (since the lady that made hers disappeared, I guess..).

LIME GREEN & BLACK Braided Bridle Complete Bitless Set | eBay

Just the noseband piece is just like what Abby has (though down really far, IMO). The nose knots have a little bit of bite if needed. Maybe message them and ask if they could just make the attachment piece?
    05-19-2011, 02:36 PM
Green Broke
Thanks girls! I'm browsing.
Wow that lime green is LIME GREEN!!!

I don't know squat about hackamores, but that's good to know about not direct reining in them.

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