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post #91 of 125 Old 08-19-2011, 05:34 PM
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I don't disagree that there are a disproportionate number of heavy-handed yahoos in barrel racing that have absolutely no clue about proper bit selection. But my beef is that a lot of people see a bit, and just because it has a long shank, or a lot of gag, or a chain mouthpiece, or a noseband, or whatever, they automatically assume it's harsh and even. Not so. You'll see just as many educated, experienced, humane riders using those bits as you will see backyard jackoffs. The key is in how it's being employed. A lot of the bits that look horrible are not, and a lot of innocuous-looking bits are actually far harsher.

Oh yes, those are the people I meant. The ones who think barrels are all hands and no body or leg cues. I have no problem with a person using a shanked bit properly.
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The point of the curb is to intimidate the horse into having a quick stop. You slam them into the ground a couple times, and they won't soon forget that pain. From then on, every time you touch the reins they sit down and slam on the brakes.
I really hope people don't believe this.
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post #93 of 125 Old 08-19-2011, 07:08 PM
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I really hope people don't believe this.
That is absolutely what the Whoa Horse bit:



The Stop-n-Turn hackamore:



And the Easy Stop are for.



Even used well, they work off pain, and offer no finesse to speak of. They should never be used for more than a couple days in a row, and never for more than a very short riding session
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Bubba, you did not mention those bits, you said CURB BITS........ There are a ton of curb bits that are no more a harsh bit than the mildest snaffle is. Please don't generalize that way.

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I've only seen that bit in person once, advertised--aptly--as a "Whoa Horse." I wondered if you were talking about it, but the picture of the Walker bit threw me off. That bit is NOT meant to be ridden on contact. It should only be used by very experienced riders, and then with a draped rein. The point of the curb is to intimidate the horse into having a quick stop. You slam them into the ground a couple times, and they won't soon forget that pain. From then on, every time you touch the reins they sit down and slam on the brakes.
If you read the whole paragraph, its very clear she talking about a certain bit.
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Go back and read my quote in context. I was referring specifically to another poster's Whoa Horse bit, which has a solid curb. It's on the bottom of the page preceding the quoted post of mine.

Edit: Oops, thanks Hukassa--beat me to it!
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OOPS, see post below. I thought I was editing this post..


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I am sorry. I had read that at a previous session and didn't look up to see what you referred to. Quotes help people with crafts. ;) I took it as a general statement. I just looked up as I should have before posting this one. I had gone off of Natasha's quote..

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Holy Bit Horse Person! That whoa bit is ???? Ouch!

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I am sorry. I had read that at a previous session and didn't look up to see what you referred to. Quotes help people with crafts. ;) I took it as a general statement. I just looked up as I should have before posting this one. I had gone off of Natasha's quote..
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