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    07-18-2011, 12:14 PM
  #61
Foal
Tom Thumb Bit

Awesome information but before this thread gets moved, I have a quick question. I too ride with a Tom Thumb, only because that's what my horse's previous owner rode with. But I don't think it's the best for my horse now and what I do.

I ride with both hands when I'm excercising/schooling on the property, but when I hit the trails I ride with one hand, on a loose rein. I've been interested in a 'western dressage' program that is starting up in my area, so I ride with more contact then I used to. Because of this, I'm trying to find a good, all around bit for this kind of work, and one that I can use on the trails as well. I've never really been happy with the Tom Thumb...just couldn't come up with a good alternative. And my horse is a 9 year old well broke gelding, who has been very forgiving of the TT.

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    07-18-2011, 12:25 PM
  #62
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Seems like most of the Western dressage I've seen is done in a snaffle bit of sorts, so you can ride on contact. Generally a regular loose-ring snaffle. If you're going to go with a curb, and you'll be doing a lot of contact and two-handing, I'd look into a Myler or Billy Allen. Does your WD club have bit regulations, though?
     
    07-19-2011, 09:00 AM
  #63
Foal
Tom Thumb Bits

Thanks for your suggestions. I don't belong to a club and I'm not necessarily going to be showing, but the coach I'm riding with right now, who specializes in Western Dressage, is not a fan of TT's, and for the kind of work that I'm doing, it makes sense.

I'm thinking that a Billy Allen with shorter, swivel shanks but be the best solution?
     
    07-19-2011, 10:20 AM
  #64
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I love this bit so much all my horses end up in it.
AT Low Port Loose Cheek Low Port Western Bit 5in - Horse.com and since I couldn't get the pic to link from there, Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Francois Gauthier Antique Hinged Futurity Bit

Everything swivels and you can direct rein when needed without the confusion I see in the jointed curb bits. I find it very soft and very communicative. AND it's not expensive. :) win win


     
    07-19-2011, 10:31 AM
  #65
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Appyt    
I love this bit so much all my horses end up in it.
AT Low Port Loose Cheek Low Port Western Bit 5in - Horse.com and since I couldn't get the pic to link from there, Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Francois Gauthier Antique Hinged Futurity Bit

Everything swivels and you can direct rein when needed without the confusion I see in the jointed curb bits. I find it very soft and very communicative. AND it's not expensive. :) win win


I use that same bit on my finished horses. I love the low purchase & short shanks. Thanks for the links as I need another one or two.
     
    07-19-2011, 10:50 AM
  #66
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Natisha, good to know I'm not alone. :) I bought one, loved it so much I recommended it to a friend. I now have 3 on headstalls, my friend has 2 and my DIL has 2 for their 2 horses as well. :)
     
    07-19-2011, 11:00 AM
  #67
Foal
Thanks for all the responses. I hope that you will bear with another question or two! How would the Francois Gauthier Futurity bit compare to a Billy Allen? My horse is a finished 9 yr. Old gelding, and I've always used TT's, and never explored my options. This is a wonderful education for me!
     
    07-19-2011, 11:44 AM
  #68
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A Billy Allen is a mouth piece, not a whole bit. Well that's my understanding. Differences I can't tell you other than look at them both closely and compare other things like purchase, shank length etc. I would say this is more like some mylers as they also have lots of independent actions. BA's imo are more like a 3piece mouth but the middle is a fatish roller. So could be very similar feel. I like those too, only have one that i'd call a BA style and it's on a Kimberwick that I loved using before I found these..

I'm off to haul a silly lil mini with a bellyache to the doc.
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    07-19-2011, 11:51 AM
  #69
Foal
Thanks Appyt and hope everything works out with the mini.
     
    07-19-2011, 01:45 PM
  #70
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Appyt    
A Billy Allen is a mouth piece, not a whole bit. Well that's my understanding. Differences I can't tell you other than look at them both closely and compare other things like purchase, shank length etc. I would say this is more like some mylers as they also have lots of independent actions. BA's imo are more like a 3piece mouth but the middle is a fatish roller. So could be very similar feel. I like those too, only have one that i'd call a BA style and it's on a Kimberwick that I loved using before I found these..

I'm off to haul a silly lil mini with a bellyache to the doc.
I hope all turns out well.
     

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