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    07-20-2011, 01:58 AM
  #71
Started
Thank you Natisha, It seems to have resolved. Maybe from the trailer ride to the vet or possibly she is having an odd allergic reaction as her breathing was pretty heavy. My other pony had a similar issue a few years ago tho he is fine now. Not sure what they may be getting into but they are shut in the arena/barn for the time being so I can keep an eye on this.
     
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    07-20-2011, 01:41 PM
  #72
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Appyt    
Thank you Natisha, It seems to have resolved. Maybe from the trailer ride to the vet or possibly she is having an odd allergic reaction as her breathing was pretty heavy. My other pony had a similar issue a few years ago tho he is fine now. Not sure what they may be getting into but they are shut in the arena/barn for the time being so I can keep an eye on this.
Thanks for the update & I'm glad they are fine.
     
    07-25-2011, 06:44 AM
  #73
Foal
Thanks, it is so helpful!!!!!
     
    07-25-2011, 09:07 AM
  #74
Foal
Okay, this is probably a dumb question, but I'm still fairly new to horses, so just thought I'd ask:
I bought this bit from Myler

My question is, do you use a curb chain with it? I have been, since the lady at the store said the curb chain is essentially my "brakes" for the horse, but I have read you don't use a curb with a snaffle & was kinda confused.
Also, is there a lot of difference between loose ring, dee ring & eggbutt?




BTW: this bit (above) works great with my mustang.
With my Walker, I used this one

But when she ran away with me one time, my neighbor put her in something like this

Except, where the curb should be there is a piece of metal like a mullen mouth (I'll take a picture of it tomorrow). I hate it because it looks painful, but he has more experience with horses, so I let him use it. Thankfully, she is on maternity leave, so it didn't get used much, but I think I will just put her back in a snaffle & see how it goes.
     
    07-25-2011, 10:04 AM
  #75
Showing
The lady at the tack store needs some education. The first bit you show does not use a curb chain the way a leverage bit does. The only reason someone puts a curb chain on that bit is to prevent the bit from being pulled through the horse's mouth if he is resisting your reins making a turn (typical on a green horse).

The second bit has a Billy Allen mouth piece, my favorite. If your horse is not stopping with that bit then both you and your horse could use some training not moved up to a harsher bit.

The third bit is a typical Walking Horse bit and, like any leverage bit, can be severe in uneducated hands.
     
    07-25-2011, 01:24 PM
  #76
Banned
I'd be curious to see that solid curb you're talking about. It's not a Power Curb, is it?



The first bit, the snaffle, are you using the slots, or not?

The second bit is a great bit, and you should not need something harsher to prevent a runaway.
     
    07-25-2011, 06:53 PM
  #77
Foal
No, it's not a power curb. I put a curly shoe string on it to cushion it a bit since it was cutting her bottom jaw. She has been in maternity leave for the last couple months, so we haven't been using it & he only used it a short time before we stopped riding her.







I think sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about, but he has more experience than me, I'm reluctant to disagree with his advice. That is why I am trying to learn all I can about everything so I can make my own decisions about my horses.
     
    07-25-2011, 07:08 PM
  #78
Foal
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The first bit, the snaffle, are you using the slots, or not?
The second bit is a great bit, and you should not need something harsher to prevent a runaway.
Yes, I am using the slots on the first bit. The second bit I brought home when he changed Dakota's bit to that harsh one, but he's over my house all the time & one day I saw it was gone. I asked him about it & he said he took it & has been using it in his pony. Now it's all rusty & I really don't want it back, so I thought I'd just try out the snaffle in Dakota & if it works well for her, then just get her one of her own.

Funny thing, tho, I used to ride her in a jointed-mouth loose ring snaffle & she would toss her head & ride with her head high all the time (avoiding the bit?).
Then I bought the Myler bit book to learn about bits & chose that second bit I posted. All was well until she ran away with me one day. While at the Equine Affaire last Feb, I asked Julie Goodnight about the bit change & all she said was she "wouldn't have put her horse in that bit", but wouldn't explain why or offer any suggestions. That was really disappointing to me since I watch her show (Horse Master) all the time on RFDTV & I guess I just expected her to be more helpful.
     
    07-25-2011, 07:34 PM
  #79
Showing
Um, wow. This may sound a bit rude but I know of no other way to say it.

If you are riding her in a bit like that and cranking on her mouth to the point that the curb bar is cutting into her chin, then there are some very serious training problems that need to be addressed. As for the neighbor that suggested she be ridden in that, he needs to be smacked. Your brakes don't come from the size or strength of the bit in their mouth, it comes from the training that they've gotten. If your mare is running away with you in any bit that isn't putting her lower jaw in a vice, then there is a desperate need for retraining for both the rider and the horse.
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    07-25-2011, 09:58 PM
  #80
Foal
Just to clarify...I do not approve of that bit. I think it looks cruel myself. My neighbor is the one who "insists" she needs that. It was only used a few times (to my objections), but not knowing any better (remember, I am new to horses), I let him do it. I am going over right now to throw that thing into the trash can...I can think of no better place for it.

Thank you for your honesty. I did not take anything as being "rude". I just wanted someone else who knows something about horses to second my opinion that this bit is cruel.
     

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