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    07-25-2011, 11:32 PM
  #81
Banned
I've only seen that bit in person once, advertised--aptly--as a "Whoa Horse." I wondered if you were talking about it, but the picture of the Walker bit threw me off. That bit is NOT meant to be ridden on contact. It should only be used by very experienced riders, and then with a draped rein. The point of the curb is to intimidate the horse into having a quick stop. You slam them into the ground a couple times, and they won't soon forget that pain. From then on, every time you touch the reins they sit down and slam on the brakes.

Do not, I repeat, do not use it anymore, or you run the risk not only of causing your horse pain, but of permanently ruining her mouth (or causing her to rear from the pressure--that curb can even break a jaw). It's also time to stop taking advice from Mr. Neighbor....not all "experts" are as they claim to be.

Instead, if you are somehow able to find competent instruction, and a trainer who is willing to work with both your horse and you, that is the avenue I would take. No bit can prevent a horse from running away, but a good rider can prevent a dangerous bolting episode on any horse with any bit. But you have to know how to use the tools appropriately for your horse (and how to choose the correct one).
     
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    07-26-2011, 01:37 AM
  #82
Foal
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Do not, I repeat, do not use it anymore
No way! Already off the bridle. Want to throw it away, but it doesn't belong to me. Maybe I'll just hide it & see if he ever asks for it back. Hopefully, he won't, but he may have borrowed it from a local rancher, so I shouldn't toss it...just yet.

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It's also time to stop taking advice from Mr. Neighbor.
Yeah, I got that. I have been investing in some training videos (which help alot), and also have been in contact with one trainer. The only problem with the trainer is, she wants me to board there & come for training sessions. I keep my horse at home & really don't want to board her elsewhere, so I will keep looking.
As it is, I ride everyday & my riding skills get better each time. I just wish I knew more horsey people to talk & ride with.

I want to thank everyone for their advice & don't worry...that bit will NEVER pass any of my horses' lips ever again!
     
    07-26-2011, 01:58 AM
  #83
Foal
Oh, ant BTW, my neighbor never did this (Thank God)
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You slam them into the ground a couple times, and they won't soon forget that pain.
But he must have used a strong hand on it once or twice since I did see a scab on her jaw. That was when I put the coil shoestring on to try to cushion it.

It's interesting, too, that my mare really doesn't like him. She tries to bite him when we ride together & once, she ran him into a tree to get him off her back. Dislocated his shoulder. Except for the few times she ran away with me, she actually seems very protective of me.
As far as the running away goes, I have learned to spin her around when she tries to bolt. Works better than pulling back on the reins. :)
     
    07-28-2011, 11:09 PM
  #84
Weanling
I was looking at different bits that were in barrel horse's mouths at a recent open speed show and was beyond amazed, I saw Mechanical Hacks with 10" shanks, the gag bit rope hack combos all with twisted wire mouth pieces, I even saw a few of the metal nose ones. I was just standing there on my horse in a Argentine Snaffle copper 2 piece mouthpiece.
     
    08-10-2011, 07:38 PM
  #85
Foal
Thank you Smrobs your post was very helpful!!! It was just what I was looking for.
     
    08-18-2011, 01:47 PM
  #86
Foal
Very informative! Thanks!
     
    08-19-2011, 11:06 AM
  #87
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Originally Posted by Eclipse295    
I was looking at different bits that were in barrel horse's mouths at a recent open speed show and was beyond amazed, I saw Mechanical Hacks with 10" shanks, the gag bit rope hack combos all with twisted wire mouth pieces, I even saw a few of the metal nose ones. I was just standing there on my horse in a Argentine Snaffle copper 2 piece mouthpiece.
Some of the things barrel racers use are just rediculous. It's mostly because they don't properly train their horses to stop without yanking back as hard as possible.
     
    08-19-2011, 03:01 PM
  #88
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Please don't say ignorant, inaccurate, biased stuff like the above unless you know what you're talking about.
     
    08-19-2011, 04:11 PM
  #89
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Please don't say ignorant, inaccurate, biased stuff like the above unless you know what you're talking about.
However, I didn't mean to make a blanket statement. I'm quite aware of the many talented and well-trained barrel horses and their riders. I said some of the things barrel racers use are rediculous. It's mainly due to the uneducated ones that seem to flock towards barrel racing (like any other discipline) and think their horse wont stop, so they stick the harshest thing they can find in their horse's mouth. It adds to their poor seat and balance to top it off. I know that you barrel race and I'm sorry that I offended you. I barrel race a little bit too (gymkhanas) and I know what it's like to be blanketed under one statement. I'll admit it was ignorant of me to say something so vague and not think about offending any person.
     
    08-19-2011, 04:46 PM
  #90
Banned
I don't disagree that there are a disproportionate number of heavy-handed yahoos in barrel racing that have absolutely no clue about proper bit selection. But my beef is that a lot of people see a bit, and just because it has a long shank, or a lot of gag, or a chain mouthpiece, or a noseband, or whatever, they automatically assume it's harsh and even. Not so. You'll see just as many educated, experienced, humane riders using those bits as you will see backyard jackoffs. The key is in how it's being employed. A lot of the bits that look horrible are not, and a lot of innocuous-looking bits are actually far harsher.

If you study the mechanics, this bit, for example:



Is actually kinder than a bit like this one:



Similarly, the following two bits are simply not very harsh at all, when used correctly:





Even this one is not nearly as bad as people first think upon seeing it--I'd classify it only as a moderate bit, and it's certainly far milder than the majority of combo bits on the market:

     

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