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    04-12-2011, 10:50 PM
  #1
Foal
Bit for a light mouth

I have a mare that neck reins very well. The problem is that my son is still pretty heavy in the hand and she will throw her head while he's riding her. This makes him nervous. I have been using a sidepull on her, but she doesn't respond to it as well. It was suggested that I use a light bit and tie down on her. What kind of bit would be best. We ride western.
     
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    04-12-2011, 11:25 PM
  #2
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If you could avoid the tie down it would be best, in my opinion. Tie downs build bad habits and bad muscles in horses. How about just a snaffle and nothing else? That way, if your son is heavy handed, the horse wont get the pull on the rein magnified, as it does with any shanked bit (traditional western curb). A snaffle give only a one to one ratio of pull on the reins to pressure felt on the bit. And work with your son on learning how to apply pressure slowly and wathc the horse for the response, he might be able to release and reward her a lot sooner than he thinks, and take up the pressure a lot slower, too.
     
    04-12-2011, 11:29 PM
  #3
Trained
I rarely advocate mechanical hackamores but in this case it seems a good idea. This way there is no pressure on the mouth at all. I hate tie-downs and would never recommend them.
     
    04-12-2011, 11:40 PM
  #4
Foal
I am just getting into the horse world, and want to learn as much as I can to make my and my childrens experience a fun and safe one. Tie downs seem to be a love em or hate peice of tack, why?
     
    04-13-2011, 07:40 AM
  #5
Trained
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Originally Posted by Horse Dreamer    
I am just getting into the horse world, and want to learn as much as I can to make my and my childrens experience a fun and safe one. Tie downs seem to be a love em or hate peice of tack, why?
The biggest problem I see with tie downs is that people often use them to circumvent or 'band aid' fix a rider (not horse) problem. As tinyliny mentioned, I would certainly stay away from leveraged bits and go to a simple snaffle like an egg butt, but the key will be to working on your son's hands, keeping on a loose rein, and out of your mare's mouth... or you're justing inviting your mare to develop bad habits (even with a snaffle, you can generate more than enough pressure to cause head tossing in a light mouthed horse).
     
    04-13-2011, 07:57 AM
  #6
Showing
I agree with PaintHorse about the use of a tie down. In this case, a tie down can lead to a rearing horse since he can't get relief from your son's heavy hands. A mechanical hackamore, in heavy hands, can break a horse's nose or at least damage it.

If you need him to stay with that horse, for a very mild bit, I would choose a Billy Allen mouth piece in a snaffle. It is very forgiving and can't collapse to form a nut cracker the way a 2 piece can. Billy Allen Bits scroll down to the snaffle - most of these are leverage bits. I've been using that mouth piece on dozens of horses for the past 15 years and never had a problem with it.

For training, I've seen the use of light string or yarn attached to the bit and the reins attached to the yarn. If he pulls too hard, the yarn breaks. It's a training exercise that is first done without a horse then the student is moved up to a horse in an arena. I certainly wouldn't do it on a trail ride or in a pasture where you have no way to control your horse.
     
    04-13-2011, 01:08 PM
  #7
Banned
Can he control her in a rope halter?
     
    04-13-2011, 03:01 PM
  #8
Started
I would NOT use a tie down (agree with tinyliny and the others on this). I'd also NOT use a hackamore of ANY kind ESPECIALLY NOT MECHANICAL! They are as harsh and in some cases far HARSHER than a bit.... if your son has unsteady hands, stay far far away from both of these things imo.

I'd recommend a simple snaffle since the horse neck reins. If you are not sure what to get, consider a mullen (unjointed) one so it is similar to the curb bit your horse is in, without any leverage.
     
    04-13-2011, 03:38 PM
  #9
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Horse Dreamer    
I have a mare that neck reins very well. The problem is that my son is still pretty heavy in the hand and she will throw her head while he's riding her. This makes him nervous. I have been using a sidepull on her, but she doesn't respond to it as well. It was suggested that I use a light bit and tie down on her. What kind of bit would be best. We ride western.
You could try a half breed side pull.

How often does your son ride? Maybe have him take a few lessons?
     
    04-14-2011, 10:41 AM
  #10
Foal
He has been taking lessons. He just hasn't gotten quick on the release of pressure yet. He's not really harsh on the mouth he just keeps a little tighter rein than she likes.
     

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