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    08-11-2012, 09:51 AM
  #1
Foal
Bit and noseband question

Okay, so I finally bought my own horse, and she is current being ridden in a tom thumb. I would like to change her bit into something less hard. So my question is what kind of bit would be good for neck-reining? Would a french link work? Or do I need something else. I am not opposed to spending $50 or more on a bit. But I would like to find a cheaper bit to order and buy when I am trying it out.

My other question in short. What is the propose of a noseband?
     
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    08-11-2012, 11:21 PM
  #2
Foal
I ride Western and haven't seen anyone use a noseband before. But I like the way they look. Lol.
     
    08-11-2012, 11:25 PM
  #3
Weanling
Don't use a snaffle[such as a french link in a d-ring] for neck reining. It is meant for direct contact.

If you want to do neck rein, use a bit with shanks. How about you try a myler bit with shanks? They have good mouth pieces and shanks too.

ETA: As for nosebands, I can't help you there. XD
     
    08-11-2012, 11:32 PM
  #4
Trained
You can neck rein in any bit, or even with no bit at all! Western horses are shown up in the bridle with shanks with one hand, but it doesn't matter. You can do it in a french link if you want. The shank bits are just favored because you can give quieter signals on a looser rein. But really, if your horse is trained, it doesn't matter. I school in a snaffle and will ride one handed with one.

Secondly, by a noseband, I assume you mean the western kind. I use it for two reasons:

1. On the trail so I can tie up without having the halter underneath
Or 2. For the tiedown in barrel racing to help a horse balance in turns.
     
    08-12-2012, 12:04 AM
  #5
Showing
For a horse that neck reins well, you can ride in either a snaffle or a curb of some sort. You can find shanked bits that either have a dogbone or french link mouth on them, but I am not a fan of shanked bits with broken and/or floating mouths like that. I much prefer something solid that my horses can pick up and carry instead of just packing around.

Any one of these should suit your needs well. I use bits either exactly like these or very similar on all my horses and, while certain horses do have their preferances between them, I've never had one that didn't go well in at least one of them (though they often went well in all but liked one better than the rest).
Http://www.amazon.com/Francois-Gauthier-Antique-Hinged-Futurity/dp/B003ABB6TA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC_pads?ie=UTF8&colid=OX4DECX9Z5R0&coliid=I24WKBG58Z94UP
Http://www.amazon.com/Coronet-Training-Short-Shank-Copper/dp/B007T9B6QM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=OX4DECX9Z5R0&coliid=I29F5VN6VDEQ28
Http://www.amazon.com/Reinsman-Straight-Mouth-Roller-Reiner/dp/B003LVNX4K/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=OX4DECX9Z5R0&coliid=I2RVQ5DLX829EB
Http://www.amazon.com/Breed-Sweetwater-Mullen-Trainning-Horse/dp/B0053EQS0Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=OX4DECX9Z5R0&coliid=I22KFSZLAEYKNI
And, while I don't have one of these, I like the way they look and plan to try one soon.
Http://www.amazon.com/Sta-Brite-High-Port-Swivel-Mouth/dp/B002HIEGI0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=OX4DECX9Z5R0&coliid=I3A3TYAKMIF3XV

As for nosebands, it depends on what kind you're talking about as there are several different things that are all called "nosebands" in the western world.

There are tie-downs, which are nosebands attached to the front cinch via a strip of leather/nylon. Those are designed for horses to brace against them in high torque events like roping and barrels so that a horse can maintain balance and strength in a sharp turn or a hard stop.


Then, there are bosalitas, which are often used with a "get-down" rope. I can't seem to find a good picture of one on a horse but they look like this. The rope is tied around the horse's neck at the throatlatch then run through the rawhide noseband. They are traditionally used on ranch and/or vaquero horses for leading/tying instead of using the bridle reins.


Then, there are cavesons. Basically, they are a noseband designed to try to keep the horse quiet on the bit...though I think they are more of a crutch than anything in that regard. IMHO, there are much better and much more effective ways to get a quiet horse, but that's beside the point. They are just strips of leather/rope/rawhide with or without decoration that are not designed to withstand any sort of pressure from leading/tying/tie-down/etc. They are used almost exclusively with snaffle bits.
     
    08-12-2012, 09:18 AM
  #6
Started
Old cowboy bridles used to have nose bands, think of Matt Dillion's horse and Ben Cartwright. Colorado Saddlery sells one. Look at the center one here
http://coloradosaddlery.com/Headstall4.htm
     

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