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post #11 of 14 Old 02-19-2012, 02:08 AM Thread Starter
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waresbear i was kinda thinking something like that too that is a double jointed snaffle right? it gives them a fuller feel in the mouth right?
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post #12 of 14 Old 02-19-2012, 02:19 AM
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Possibly random question: what color is this mare?

If she's gray, I have thoughts.

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post #13 of 14 Old 02-19-2012, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Natbos View Post
SMROBS:"I am all for an experienced horseman using a twisted bit or a harsher curb to re-mouth a horse that came to them ruined"

this is contradicting, isn't this what you would call a "ruined" "hard mouthed" horse..

Yes, but if the horse's mouth has been ruined, sometimes it does take a harsher bit to remind them that they need to respect the bit. If they are really hard, often times a nice simple snaffle just won't have the umph to demand respect.

The thing about those harsher bits is that you really need to know how to use them in order to avoid making the problem worse and that's why I said "experienced horsemen".

"but to bit up a horse because you no longer have control in the snaffle without first finding out why you no longer have control in the snaffle will just cause more problems."

I never said she was out of control in a snaffle i said she pulls and mouths the bit. if she was out of control i would not put my 4 yr old on her in a snaffle, or any other bit for that matter.
I am not asking for a harsh bit to "correct" the problem. I Was just thinking she may like a diffrent kind of snaffle better that may help ease her mouthing and pulling.

Then I apologize, I apparently read your post wrong and made the assumption that you simply didn't have enough control and were wanting options on which bits would give you control.

The pulling is likely something that remains from her previous riding experience and will need to be addressed with training on how to properly give to the bit. Unfortunately, she's probably never been taught that.

As for the mouthiness, you might consider a double jointed snaffle with a roller or some rings like these....
FES Sweet Iron Snaffle with Copper Roller in D-Rings at Schneider Saddlery

Egg Butt Snaffle with wrapped Dog Bone :: Tack in the Box

And if it seems to help to have something in her mouth to fiddle with but the rollers just don't seem like enough, you can get one with keys
Green River Tack

One thing to watch out for though with those pacifier bits. Some horses get so engrossed in playing with the bit that they begin to tune out the more subtle cues from the rider.
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post #14 of 14 Old 02-19-2012, 03:16 AM Thread Starter
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She is a sorrel.

No apology necessary, it seems everyone thought i was asking for something harsher, She just is constantly pulling and mouthing even at a stand even times when no ones on her thats why i figured it was possibly learned during her racing career and/or was probably not taught to give at all. she has a few other bad habits also, shes cinchy, she sways and paws and will stand in her corral and toss her head and comp her mouth when shes hungry (which is always especially if she knows your watching her LOL sometime i think she's a cow)or your late feeding.shes not high strung but seem like these have been learned stress relievers for her. but beside all that she is a good horse and good with the kids, just needs to be worked with. she is by no means going to be a reining champion for sure.
I have never seen a snaffle with keys like that it is very interesting i am going to look into it more but i think it may be too much. i like the snaffle with the roller i will look into that more considering the rolling curb pacified her a little this may be a good combination with the snaffle for her. and this will work as a double joint snaffle am i correct?
I think a little pacifying wont hurt her, cause as it stands right now she pays more attention to her mouthing then her cues.takes her a minute to catch up.

thanks guys for the suggestions looks like i have some stuff to look into now i appreciate it and if you think of any others let me know....
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