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post #1 of 5 Old 09-08-2010, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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Bitless bridle for stubborn horse?

I was wondering if anybody has tried bitless bridles on a stubborn horse? Do they work good?

Could you give me pros and cons(for a stubborn horse)
And what brand did you try

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post #2 of 5 Old 09-08-2010, 03:51 PM
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What do you mean by stubborn? What exactly are you having trouble with? Go? Stop? Turn?
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stubborn meaning, turn and go. He is just a little on the old side and hasn't been ridden in a while, and he can't wear a bit. Just stubborn.
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Have you tried riding in a simple halter? That's always my first attempt at bitless with a horse.
How is the horse in the round pen or on the longe? Is it reactive to your voice and body language?
My own way of handling non response in a horse is first seat aid, second leg supported with voice, then lastly a wake-up tap with the whip. If a horse isn't very educated to seat aids then I'd give seat and leg at the same time very quickly followed by the tap of the whip if I don't get a response.
What's in their mouth (or not) shouldn't make a difference in the horses reaction to your driving aids unless you're riding with the emergency brake on in which case a bitless bride won't make much of a difference.
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I make a practice of training & 'retraining' in a halter. I won't put a bit in a horse's mouth at least until he's going well & consistently in a halter. As the horses people want me to retrain are inevitably 'problem horses', yes, many people refer to them as 'stubborn'.

What I tend to think of when people talk of 'stubborn' horses is the horse that has been used & abused his whole life, often by novices that don't know what they're doing, so the horse has learned to do what works for him - ignore it & it'll eventually go away. On the other hand, resisting pressure is also the horse's natural reaction against something that it doesn't understand/is nervous about/hurts it. Therefore it may be due to a lack of good training in the first place, or painful methods or equipment that has led to the horse being 'stubborn'.

So, basically I'd take the horse back to the basics of training, teach him to yield to gentle pressure, etc, on the ground before being ridden. Fill in the holes in his training, to teach him that there's nothing to worry about & it's yielding to, not resisting pressure that works.
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