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    09-20-2010, 08:51 PM
pee-wee bit

I will be most interested to know what you think of the Peewee bit. I bought one online and used it for a bit but my horse didn't like the tongue pressure. He was used to a single snaffle, which I think may have more bar pressure. Also, I ordered the medium (or "horse" size) and I think it is too big to have the kind of pressure on the side of the jaw that they tout as the big reason the bit is successful.
Be sure to watch the video explaining how to put it on the bridle as it is important to do it right and it's not self explanatory.
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    09-21-2010, 03:24 AM
Thanks. I will update this post when I've tried it. It will arrive on Wednesday.

I did some more research today and found that the KK ultra by Herm Sprenger and the Myler Comfort Bits are supposed to work without contact to the roof of the mouth. I may try one of those, especially the myler since it has the barrel and no nutcracker effect. But I will wait until I've tried all the stuff I've ordered so far.

If anyone has experience with the KK or the Myler Comfort please share.
    09-21-2010, 05:49 AM
^ I was about to reccomend a Myler :]

They are my go-to bit for a horse with a low palate or fat tongue or one who just doesn't like bulk in the mouth.

My show horse has fleshy lips and is in an offset D level 1 comfort snaffle.

My young horse just likes the thinner mouthpiece and she is in the loose ring level 1 comfort snaffle.

They are well designed bits that really do take into account mouth comformation unlike so many others.
    09-21-2010, 01:23 PM
I use a KK ultr (double snaffle with a "bean" in the middle) the most of any bit I have. It is a loose ring and I absolutely LOVE it and have not found a horse yet that doesnt do just fine in it. It is not particularly thinner than any bit, tho. However, you can get them thinner.
I have a Myler comforat full cheek. It is ok, too.
In most cases, outside of a really hard,or sharp, or fat bit, any bit is ok if it is used well. In your case, you have a special situation.
I will be so curious to hear how your choices work out for you. It's really great that you are taking the time and effort to make this situation better for you horse.
    09-21-2010, 02:02 PM
You both mention using a loose ring snaffle. I am looking at the myler comfort eggbutt and loose ring. I read an article on bits and what I got from it was that the loose ring is more flexible for the horse, but that if you don't have steady hands the horse can feel jiggling from the loose ring. I've been riding over a year now, but have only had a couple months of lessons. I don't think I'm all that steady. What are your thoughts on this? Should I be using an eggbutt or loose ring if I end up getting a myler?
    09-21-2010, 02:08 PM
Green Broke
I use loose rings for two of my lesson horses that beginners ride. You can see a head-set change when someone has noisy hands, but I find it useful as the rider can clearly see the effect their hands have on the horse. It makes teaching a quiet hand easier IMO.
    09-21-2010, 02:19 PM
I think the loose rings , because they can roll freely, reposition themselves constantly to stay in direct alignment from the riders elbow, hand to mouht. I read that this disallows the horse to lean on the bit and allows form better contact in a whole range of angles.
Eggbuts are morse steady and softer where the bit ring meets the mouthpiece. Less likely to pinch the horse's lips. But they have a more clearly defined place where the line (hand to bit) is straight and other angles the straight line is lost because the bit ring doesnt freely roll. I am not sure I explained that well.
Both would be fine. I think eggbut is used more in hunter/jumper but they are also very good bits.
If you get loose rings, be sure it's big enough so it doesn't pinch the horse. And don't put it too high in horse's mouth. THis old thing of TWO wrinkles in the corner of the mouth is hogwash. One mild wrinkle is plenty. Letting the bit be as low as it can without clanging on the horse's front teeth is best. The horse will be alot happier and will be able to "carry" the bit with his mouth rather than fighting a sense of it pulling back up into his throat, gagging him.
    09-21-2010, 02:38 PM
Good advise, thanks. I read and read and ask and ask and I'm still always learning something new, or hearing something from a different prospective. Thanks again.
    09-21-2010, 02:45 PM
I just checked out your horse and she is gorgeous! What intrigueing coloration. She had great confirmation from what I can see and a cute as a button face. I am jealous!
    09-22-2010, 12:24 AM
What I do is start a horse in a mechanical hackamore (may be the same as short shank, I have not heard that term), then once they are responding to that, I switch them to an English jumping hackamore. It's like "graduating" to something with less pressure on the face.

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