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    11-01-2008, 10:47 AM
  #21
Showing
I guess I should have specified Mine is a Dr. Cook.
I did do some round pen work with it before we headed out.
I'm just a scardy cat and have a terrible fear of falling. Maybe that's why I went back to the bit.
I like to be very much in control of my horse. Could be just a mental block for me and Vida would get used to it after awhile. She has no problem with a bit and I like to think I have light hands so I think I'll keep her a metal mouth.
     
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    11-01-2008, 06:13 PM
  #22
Trained
Well, I find this all very interesting. I really wanted to try a Nurtural Bridle -- they are made close to where I live apparently and there's been a lot of hype about them.

I only know two people that use them -- one had no success with it, but that lady has limited success with anything because she's very agressive; the other lady bought it and had great success. The horse responded far better. That was because the bit caused him physical discomfort, probably due to teeth changes at the time. Also, this horse is still in a learning curve so he didn't have much to "unlearn" and the lady did a lot of prepatory ground work with him. I agree with the poster that said to put a such a dramatically different piece of equipment on a horse requires some training first. I also agree that the mechanics of the Nurtural bridles are completely different than the standard headstall. Thinking about it now, I can see how this could be confusing for a horse well trained in a bitted bridle.

And someone mentioned the plastic spacer under the jaw on the Nurtural bridle -- this is to keep the cheek pieces in line. Supposedly, without that, the cheek pieces can ride up or down on the face and then change the pressures yet again. I haven't checked it out closely enough to say, but that's what I've been told.

Edited to add:
Oh -- my point from the start of my post was: now I'm not so anxious to rush out and try one of these things. I think I will stick with "if it's not broke, don't fix it"
     
    11-02-2008, 10:16 AM
  #23
Showing
I have no idea why Denny reacted the way he did.. it was such a strong negative reaction that I'm still stunned.
In the same breath, I am not going to put my life on the line to try it out again.

M2G - haha that's the way I roll ;)
     
    11-02-2008, 10:57 AM
  #24
Banned
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Originally Posted by Zab    
Off topic..
Why on earth are they calling a ropehalter 'hackamore''? A hackamore has a curb bit effect, a rope halter...is just a ropehalter.. O_o;

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What would you consider a bosal then? Just curious... The Parelli hackamore (or rope halter as you two obviously perfer to call it) acts in the same way. You put the reins to where you would connect the lead rope and gives in the bosal effect.

Also yes it's $106 online at the Parelli website....but you can get off brands for half the price (that's what HAF got)



On the topic of the bitless bridle that JDI tried for Denny. I tried one bitless bridle for Sonny at the last barn...it was a hackamore of types with the metal shanks on the end (kinda different than the one you used) and he hated it. He'd toss his head when I asked to stop and tried as hard as he could to run through the pressure.
I haven't heard to many pros on the bitless bridle (meaning a bridle type material without the bit...like the one you used or the Dr Cooks...wait was that the name of it? I dunno.) I myself perfer either bosals or the Parelli Hackamore because they aren't as harsh and I found that they work better (at least for my horse)
     
    11-02-2008, 11:03 AM
  #25
Green Broke
My old BO uses bitless bridles on both of her horses one is an 18 year old Chincoteaque pony and the other is an 8 year old QH/Paint....they both were fine in them but I definitely understand how some horses can freak out from them because they use different pressure points.... she used ones that looked like this. I don't know what brand it was though.



     
    11-02-2008, 12:13 PM
  #26
Foal
Talking

I had my first ride in my new Easy Trek bridle today (exactly the same as Dr Cook's but cheaper). I have to say I was a little unsure of what my horse might do because she can be an absolute nightmare sometimes. Never the less I got on and I loved it! We rode down the carpark and onto the common where I keep her, it's about 90 acres and has about 40 horses roaming it. She had about 5 minutes of wanting to trot and getting a bit joggy, I think this was because she suddenly realised she had no bit in her mouth, but then she settled right down and was really relaxed. At no point did I feel as though I had lost control and I walked, trotted and cantered her. This may not sound much but my mare can be very spooky and unpredictable when she is ridden out without another horse. I think the main thing I noticed was that if she looked at something she would shy but then go back to being relaxed. Normally she would spook and then take ages to calm down again. There is alot of scheptasism with these bridles but I have only ever read one bad review and I have tried it on a horse which is a challenge to ride, I think everyone should atleast give it a go. I have also just bought a treeless saddle but I'm going to get Sacha used to her bridle before I ride her in that as well. I don't want to blow her mind by changing all she knows in one day.
     
    11-02-2008, 01:30 PM
  #27
Showing
It's seems it's really a horse and rider choice. I personally don't like the look of them, could not imagine showing in one so if I'm not going to ride in one, no point in getting one.
Also I don't understand how you can ride a horse properly without the mouth to elbow and hind end contact you need to balance out a horse?? How can you push that hind end forward thru your lower leg to get that if all you have is pressure points on the nose?
     
    11-02-2008, 09:23 PM
  #28
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by My2Geldings    
It's seems it's really a horse and rider choice. I personally don't like the look of them, could not imagine showing in one so if I'm not going to ride in one, no point in getting one.
Also I don't understand how you can ride a horse properly without the mouth to elbow and hind end contact you need to balance out a horse?? How can you push that hind end forward thru your lower leg to get that if all you have is pressure points on the nose?
I use mine for hacking and trail riding, but I have schooled in it (my mare was due for a teeth floating and she was cranky with the bit). It takes more muscle, but I could get some decent collection with it and rounding through her back.

The nose is just another point on the face, not much different than metal in the mouth, just more gentle. The energy is still coming from behind, through the back, over the poll, and into the bridle, just to a different mechanism.

You can't show in it of course, so it doesn't make sense to buy it if that's all you do is show, but it makes a nice bridle for people who don't show, or who like to take a break from schooling and have some fun.
     
    11-02-2008, 09:34 PM
  #29
Showing
I personally love having the subtle communication that is the bit. Eventually I'd love to be able to ride without a bridle period, I think that would be a really neat experience, but the bit allows for such fine communication I can't imagine an equivalent with anything else.
     
    11-02-2008, 09:44 PM
  #30
Green Broke
I have to say The parelli hackamore was a bit confuseing for the turning for chance but after a while she was working off of my body and we were doing pretty good just gotta get use to teh different pressure points. She did in fact stop REAL quick when I said whoaa and pulled even teh slightest she stoped immediatly and didnt move a inch. After about 30 mintues I switched to my normal snaffle bridle and asked for a whoa and pulled it took longer to stop and she would keep moving forward. So there was a good change with the bitless.
     

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