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post #1 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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The horse I am looking at buying, is a western pleasure/ reining mare.
This is the bit she uses:

It is not harsh at all though, as you don't have any contact with her mouth.

But, I asked about a snaffle on her.. they said that she wont listen too good, and you would have to have a noseband with it.

She is 13 yrs old, and she has been using this bridle ever since she was 3-4 yrs old.

Do you think if I get her, to continue using this one, even for trails?

The daughter has ridden her with a halter, so maybe that bit is only for working/showing?

Any advice? Thanks :)

PS: I would do lots of trails, when in the arena working, would use that bit.. also would go swimming and barebacking with my friends.

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post #2 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 09:16 PM
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Hmmmm.... The top cutting horses in the barn I go work in snaffle as good as they do in curb. In fact most of the time they go in snaffle. I'd really give snaffle a try. You never know - she may like it. And if not you can just always come back to that one.
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post #3 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 09:20 PM
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A lot of horses that are ridden in a curb for a long time won't go well in a snaffle because (as it has been pointed out numerous times on this forum) they work entirely different. If you are riding with no contact and she is behaving well don't go mucking it up because it is trendy and popular to ride in a snaffle.

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post #4 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 09:27 PM Thread Starter
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Hmmmm.... The top cutting horses in the barn I go work in snaffle as good as they do in curb. In fact most of the time they go in snaffle. I'd really give snaffle a try. You never know - she may like it. And if not you can just always come back to that one.
yeah, the owners said that western horses are started in a snaffle, but that's a baby bit, and they graduate that by the time they are 3-4 yrs old.
I guess I could give it a try :)

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A lot of horses that are ridden in a curb for a long time won't go well in a snaffle because (as it has been pointed out numerous times on this forum) they work entirely different. If you are riding with no contact and she is behaving well don't go mucking it up because it is trendy and popular to ride in a snaffle.
I love the way she responds to this bit.. but I was thinking for trails and riding down the road and stuff, do I really need that fancy of gear? I don't want the snaffle for trendyness.. but for comfort and quiet laid back ride. Also, the bridle is quite expensive and I wouldnt want it getting wrecked.
Is there any other type of bit for trails that would be good, or would this be fine for trails?

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post #5 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 09:52 PM
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"Hi" is 12 years old and made $$$ for the owner in cutting (and still showing). He rides in snaffle most of the time though. I think it really depends on owner/barn/horse.

People around use curb on trails too. As long as you keep it loose at all time there is no difference with snaffle IMO. But I'd still give it a try at least from interest (I tried different things on my horses too to see how they like it, although I never used western bits, just sidepull/hackamore/different snaffles).
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post #6 of 20 Old 11-22-2009, 09:55 PM
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If you want something that is going to still give you the curb action but be milder (and one hell of a lot cheaper) than the bit that you posted. You might try something like this.
Tack Outlet Superstore - Quality Products At Outlet Prices - Training Snaffle

It is milder because of the shorter curved shanks and IMHO, swivel shanks are a necessity for trail riding in case you have to do a one rein stop.

However, it really wouldn't hurt her to be put back in the snaffle or ridden in a halter every now and then. Just to broaden her adaptability.

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"Hi" is 12 years old and made $$$ for the owner in cutting (and still showing). He rides in snaffle most of the time though. I think it really depends on owner/barn/horse.

People around use curb on trails too. As long as you keep it loose at all time there is no difference with snaffle IMO. But I'd still give it a try at least from interest (I tried different things on my horses too to see how they like it, although I never used western bits, just sidepull/hackamore/different snaffles).
Okay, yeah, the owner said that she loves her bit that she uses now.. she also said that foaming at the mouth is an indication that they like their bit? I have never heard of that, is it true? Also, when they chew on the bit, it means they like it?
The owner said that she wouldnt recommend a different bit, as she loves the one she has, and she doesnt really like any others.
But, I could maybe try a snaffle sometime to see how she reacts :)
I really hope we get her!!! X)

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If you want something that is going to still give you the curb action but be milder (and one hell of a lot cheaper) than the bit that you posted. You might try something like this.
Tack Outlet Superstore - Quality Products At Outlet Prices - Training Snaffle

It is milder because of the shorter curved shanks and IMHO, swivel shanks are a necessity for trail riding in case you have to do a one rein stop.

However, it really wouldn't hurt her to be put back in the snaffle or ridden in a halter every now and then. Just to broaden her adaptability.
Thanks for the link :) The one I posted isnt quite the same.. but If I don't buy the bridle with her, I could get one similar and cheaper :)
I may also start english riding down the road with her, in like a couple years. But, I would slowly have to change her over, so I would use a snaffle to get her to be used to that bit as well :)
Thanks so much!
I really hope I buy Lena!! X)

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Yes, if she chew on bit and looks relax then she likes it.
And the owner may very well be right and she won't like something different. You just never know. Some people on forum think bitless is the only way to go, but my paint hates the sidepull.
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Yes, if she chew on bit and looks relax then she likes it.
And the owner may very well be right and she won't like something different. You just never know. Some people on forum think bitless is the only way to go, but my paint hates the sidepull.
Okay, that's good to know :) I really like bosals and hackamores for their looks, but I don't think this horse would respond nicely to them. But I guess I could always try :)
Thanks so much!

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Just find a less expensive bit with the same mouth as that one and shorter shanks for pleasure riding. Simple really. My horses will go in most anything I put in their mouths. Some like different ones better than others. It's up to you to decide what he responds to best. Horses who are well broke to a curb are a pleasure to ride as they respond to very light cues. Just be sure you know the cues so you aren't thinking the horse isn't happy with the bit when it may be your end. ;)

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